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14-Jun-2019 7:25:49 AM
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On 13-Jun-2019 Keenas wrote:
>When I first saw this subject, I thought it might be about whether people
>thought glued in SS carrots were a good compromise between shitty old carrots
>and chunky rings.
>I recently went back to cosmic county after a long time away and got scared
>where I didn’t get scared before because some bolts are looking pretty
>crap now. Also thought the routes rebolted with rings didn’t suit the style
>and history of the place. Maybe glued in SS carrots would refresh the place
>without looking ugly?
>Ok, hit me...
Yeah, here it comes (whack) - no more carrots OK? They don't meet the accepted standards and are prone to unclipping with modern biners.
It's been said before ..
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14-Jun-2019 10:58:48 AM
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Nah, f*** that.
If you have to replace bolts in an area that’s already on carrots, they should be kept. By all means redesign the hanger (it’s already been done by Tim https://climbdesign.co/2017/12/08/design-awards/)
But we already have enough issues without the encouragement of lines of ugly rings through places that have been discreetly bolted for decades.
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14-Jun-2019 11:20:13 AM
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On 14-Jun-2019 gfdonc wrote:
>Yeah, here it comes (whack) - no more carrots OK? They don't meet the
>accepted standards and are prone to unclipping with modern biners.
>It's been said before ..
Not OK. Carrot and cam mixed climbing will remain at Cosmic, Ikara, and Piddo (not an exhaustive list, but these are the poster crags). The goal is to keep pathetic shit idiots away from those crags in order that they don't get crowded and trashed. Any attempt to remodel carrot and cam mixed crags as generic sport climbing will be treated as an act of war and will result in rings being chopped at popular sport crags.
Fuch your bullshit monoculture. Maybe if Victorian bolters had shown a bit of restraint and self control we'd still be able to climb in the fuching Grampians!
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18-Jun-2019 2:12:46 PM
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On 14-Jun-2019 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 14-Jun-2019 gfdonc wrote:
>>Yeah, here it comes (whack) - no more carrots OK? They don't meet the
>>accepted standards and are prone to unclipping with modern biners.
>>It's been said before ..
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>Not OK. Carrot and cam mixed climbing will remain at Cosmic, Ikara, and
>Piddo (not an exhaustive list, but these are the poster crags). The goal
>is to keep pathetic shit idiots away from those crags in order that they
>don't get crowded and trashed. Any attempt to remodel carrot and cam mixed
>crags as generic sport climbing will be treated as an act of war and will
>result in rings being chopped at popular sport crags.
>
>Fuch your bullshit monoculture. Maybe if Victorian bolters had shown a
>bit of restraint and self control we'd still be able to climb in the fuching
>Grampians!
Eh bro, re “idiots away”, did you ever get around to
onsighting The Rage this Season in its retroed form to win the bet you made on Chocky?
Does that retro still stand, or has it been sorted?
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21-Jun-2019 9:22:11 PM
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Back on topic. Hilti vs Bosch - both have new 36v versions at a similar price and weight.
Which is better?
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21-Jun-2019 9:23:25 PM
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Ozito
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22-Jun-2019 10:37:27 PM
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Both good brands, and modern 36V drills are amazing. Toss a coin and worry about other stuff.
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4-Jul-2019 12:36:57 PM
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On 21-Jun-2019 Stugang wrote:
>Back on topic. Hilti vs Bosch - both have new 36v versions at a similar
>price and weight.
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>Which is better?
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A hand drill bro.
Lightweight and will restrict your urge to over-safetyise the route in question.
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