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Mt Arapiles - Camping fee booking changes 1st July
access t CliffCare
18/06/2014
10:57:24 AM
Hi All,

I thought I should remind everyone that as of 1st July, 2014 the camping fee system which includes the new prices and the online booking for sites will be implemented. For Mt Arapiles Tooan State Park this means that you can no longer pay your fees via the fee box. You will need to book a site online.

Fees for Arapiles will continue to be $5 a night with campers free to choose where they wish to camp within the designated campground area, but you will need to do this online.

The sign has been installed and the fee box will be removed soon. See the picture below.

As yet, I have no official communication to get you any further info. I will post this as soon as it comes to hand. If if people want to make direct enquiries or give feedback then either call 131963 or email info@parks.vic.gov.au

Here is the link to the DEPI which contains the original information http://www.depi.vic.gov.au/forestry-and-land-use/visiting-parks-and-forests/national-parks-camping-and-accommodation-fees





Tracey
patto
18/06/2014
5:07:42 PM
Oh dear. Check out what $3.5 million for a website gets you these days.

http://www.parkstay.vic.gov.au/
Fiona
18/06/2014
5:54:16 PM
Classic - Mt Arapiles doesn't exist on the website - at least not in the book accommodation section.

Ben_E
18/06/2014
6:16:16 PM
If you run an "advanced" search the park comes up, but with nothing available. Perhaps it will be listed in the main section come the start of next month?

Sabu
18/06/2014
6:32:24 PM
On 18/06/2014 Fiona wrote:
>Classic - Mt Arapiles doesn't exist on the website - at least not in the
>book accommodation section.

What a joke..
patto
18/06/2014
7:15:18 PM
Hey if you are camping in Arapiles you have it lucky. In most of the Grampians you will now have to pay $38-$50 plus $10 booking fee. So around $100 for a weekend of camping for you and your cimbing partner.

For wilderness camping it will $30. Just to walk in and camp for a single night before Passport to Insanity.

The whole thing is plainly absurd. Arapiles has it good.

EDIT: (After reading one of the other documents there they may not be proceeding with the $10 booking fee proposal.)

Duang Daunk
18/06/2014
7:37:56 PM
Joke it is.
Stealth is the new buzz word; and that even applies to their website.
maxdacat
19/06/2014
11:07:28 AM
What a terrible website! Each campsite is referred to as a "Product". Did the web developers not finish the job. And Mt Buffalo is great for camping.....but nothing else?
JohnK
19/06/2014
12:58:04 PM
Oh well - the longer they leave Araps out the website due to incompetence the better then.
Just out of curiosity - assume that if you sleep in your car camp fees do not apply?
patto
19/06/2014
1:00:10 PM
On 19/06/2014 maxdacat wrote:
>What a terrible website! Each campsite is referred to as a "Product". Did
>the web developers not finish the job. And Mt Buffalo is great for camping.....but
>nothing else?

Not to mention that when a campsite, sorry "Product" is no longer able to be booked the "Product" appears as "SOLD". When you book a site it is added to you cart which then you take to the checkout.

It is quite clear that the whole website is an incompetent rush job and is currently unfinished. The whole thing is a joke. No surprises there though this was predicted months ago as all those great IT guys who did Myki needed a job.
Wendy
19/06/2014
1:13:26 PM
Another plus for the website problems - you can book Catani campsites for december at the winter camping rate :)

shortman
19/06/2014
2:03:47 PM
On 19/06/2014 JohnK wrote:
>Oh well - the longer they leave Araps out the website due to incompetence
>the better then.
>Just out of curiosity - assume that if you sleep in your car camp fees
>do not apply?

I wondered this too. I reckon it has to be free.
kieranl
19/06/2014
4:41:07 PM
On 19/06/2014 shortman wrote:
>On 19/06/2014 JohnK wrote:
>>Oh well - the longer they leave Araps out the website due to incompetence
>>the better then.
>>Just out of curiosity - assume that if you sleep in your car camp fees
>>do not apply?
>
>I wondered this too. I reckon it has to be free.
Wrong. Sign at Arapiles says that a car cannot be parked overnight without a camping permit.

kuu
19/06/2014
5:06:56 PM
On 18/06/2014 access t CliffCare wrote:

(snip)

>Hi All,
>
>I thought I should remind everyone that as of 1st July, 2014 the camping
>fee system which includes the new prices and the online booking for sites
>will be implemented. For Mt Arapiles Tooan State Park this means that you
>can no longer pay your fees via the fee box. You will need to book a site
>online.
>
>Tracey

(/snip)

With the previous/existing envelope system, people who paid the camping fee ended up with a slip to display on their tent as proof of their payment.

With the new online system I may (or may not) receive a receipt affirming my payment BUT it will be at home, in Sydney, on my computer. How will the Ranger know this when he/she does their rounds of the camping areas to check compliance?

Even if the receipt is on a mobile device that is with me at Arapiles I'm not likely to display this on the outside of my tent while I'm away climbing.

Dumb!
stingray4100
19/06/2014
6:01:55 PM
Apparently if I'm a family with 2 adults and 6 kids, I'm not allowed to camp....most of the options disappear.

shortman
19/06/2014
6:20:36 PM
On 19/06/2014 kieranl wrote:
>On 19/06/2014 shortman wrote:
>>On 19/06/2014 JohnK wrote:
>>>Oh well - the longer they leave Araps out the website due to incompetence
>>>the better then.
>>>Just out of curiosity - assume that if you sleep in your car camp fees
>>>do not apply?
>>
>>I wondered this too. I reckon it has to be free.
>Wrong. Sign at Arapiles says that a car cannot be parked overnight without
>a camping permit.

Doh. What about the road out the front?

patto
19/06/2014
7:40:21 PM
On 19/06/2014 kuu wrote:
>
>With the new online system I may (or may not) receive a receipt affirming
>my payment BUT it will be at home, in Sydney, on my computer. How will
>the Ranger know this when he/she does their rounds of the camping areas
>to check compliance?
>

Arapiles is still the exception to the rest of the system. I wouldn't be surprised if the problem you describe has even been considered. All other campsites will have numbered lots which need to be paid for in advance.

Other lovely campsites which have walk in, bush camping, have had significant works done to them which destroy their character just so they can have marked lots. Significant amount of money has been spent segregating and numbering lots at places like Lake Elizabeth.

JamesMc
19/06/2014
8:03:24 PM
Grampians isn't there either Damn.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
19/06/2014
8:16:10 PM
I pity the poor public servants that have to try and police this nonsense...
maxdacat
20/06/2014
9:10:51 AM
On 19/06/2014 stingray4100 wrote:
>Apparently if I'm a family with 2 adults and 6 kids, I'm not allowed to
>camp....most of the options disappear.

Bad news for Catholic families :p

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