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6:16:06 PM |
bl@ke 2/07/2010 7:01:04 PM Mr Pink 34 Blue mountains Sneaky old fox 34 Blue mountains Too hot to handle 34 Blue mountains White ladder 34 Nowra There are a few 33/34s too and the project next to Cobwebs at Arapiles is reckond to be 34 >>>the project next to Cobwebs at Arapiles is reckond to be 34 WTF ??? Has some one trashed Cobwebs by proximity ??? |
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6:32:09 PM |
GRADE 23 ??? Lyle Closs 1/11/2007 8:31:09 AM >Don't want to sound like an arse, and Henry was and is some kind of god, but he didn't introduce 23 to Australia. The first 23 was Albatross at Lowdina in Tassie, put up by Ian Lewis. Henry did the second ascent on his quick but awesome Tassie tour, a day or so after he freed Incipience (22) at Coles bay with me ineptly following. Albatross was probably the route that gave him the most trouble in Aus - he tried it a number of times and almost gave up before giving it one more try and getting up it. Unfortunately it was on a small, relatively unknown cliff and only Stefan Karpiniec was with him on the day - but that's irrelevant because the route was already done free when he got there, and it's still graded 23. He can certainly say he was the first to climb it on the first day he saw it - Ian tried it many times on many days before getting up it - but it was Australia's first 23. As we didn't quite realise 23 was possible back then I don't know if Ian had actually graded it 23, but Henry admitted to Stefan after climbing it that it was probably 23, and it still holds the grade. |
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6:49:52 PM |
AUSTRALIAS FIRST MULTI PITCH 21 ? http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=1&MessageID=82161 |
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6:57:00 PM |
Ian "Lew" Lewis was once described in a climbing mag as '... a blazing metior that streaked across the sky ...' or something similar ... Kim Carrigan climbed with Lew in 1974 ...the year before the Barber tour ... Lew was one of the best climbers in AUS ... but appears to have disappeared around this time .... Does anyone know what happened to Lew ?... |
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8:52:07 PM |
On 29/03/2016 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote: >bl@ke >2/07/2010 >7:01:04 PM >There are a few 33/34s too and the project next to Cobwebs at Arapiles >is reckond to be 34 > >>>>the project next to Cobwebs at Arapiles is reckond to be 34 > >WTF ??? > >Has some one trashed Cobwebs by proximity ??? U dint hear about that ascent? They called it Arachnid, an yeh it has heaps in common with Cobwebs so very contrived imo. There may be good news 4 Ur list tho, as jury is still debating about whether itz G34 or 33. |
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1:31:31 PM |
>Lew was one of the best climbers in AUS ... but appears to have disappeared >around this time .... > >Does anyone know what happened to Lew ?... He sometimes posts on here as ilewis and it's the first time I've heard of him being called "Lew". Most Victorians called him Humzoo, often abbreviated to "Zoo". |
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2:05:21 PM |
BA, you're confusing Ian Lewis and Ian Thomas (Humzoo). Ian Lewis, who I haven't met, was referred to as "Lew" ps Nice China photos btw |
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2:20:45 PM |
On 29/03/2016 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote: >GRADE 19 > >http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=1&MessageID=87475 BA ...mate ...& M8 ....can ya look thru yor early blue mts guides and sus out the earliest 17s 18s and 20s ....its still not clear whats going on here... cheers |
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2:22:13 PM |
On 30/03/2016 kieranl wrote: >BA, you're confusing Ian Lewis and Ian Thomas (Humzoo). >Ian Lewis, who I haven't met, was referred to as "Lew" Anyone in contact with Lyle Closs who can ask about Lew ? |
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2:25:36 PM |
GRADE 33 Probably Garth Miller in late 90s with things like Theda Beda (now 31/32 ? )...and Grey Area GRADE 34 Sneeky trouser snake ot sumthin ...I dunno......theres gotta be sport freaks on this site who know this end inside out ... |
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2:28:00 PM |
On 29/03/2016 gnaguts wrote: >There may be good news 4 Ur list tho, as jury is still debating about >whether itz G34 or 33. ; P...to you too ... |
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2:37:46 PM |
Insomnia 23 FA c--k Corner 23 FFA Deliverance 23 FFA Kama Sutra 23 FFA A Taste of Honey Direct Finish 23 FFA Pebbles 23 FFA Albatross 23 FFA These are the 23s listed by Ted Cais...some are now 22 I think .... Closss says Lew free climbed Albatrosss (Feb 1974) before Henry came to oz ... but I recallll the old Thrutch mags as reporting Albatross as 21 with rests ... HOWEVER ... if Lew did do it free then thats SIGNIF cos Lew would have been the ' hardest ' climber in Oz in 74 ...AND Henry didnt advance the grades in Oz as is always trumpetted ... he just consolidated the status quo and cleaned up lots of aid routes ... and attitudes to free climbing ... |
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2:41:35 PM |
Joe Friend did the FA of Albatross with rests. Lewis did the FFA. | |||||
2:46:31 PM |
On 30/03/2016 kieranl wrote: >Joe Friend did the FA of Albatross with rests. Lewis did the FFA. CHEERS K !!! Umust know ...was Solomon the first 20 ? Joe Friend ? |
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2:46:57 PM |
Actually I think that's wrong - I think I'm remembering a photo of Friend trying the FA of Albatross. TheSarvo has Lewis with the FA and Barber with the FFA |
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2:47:46 PM |
AWWW FK !!!! Thats how I see it ... |
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2:48:54 PM |
OK SO IS CLOSS BEING A SHIT STIRRER OR NOT ??? >>>Don't want to sound like an arse, and Henry was and is some kind of god, but he didn't introduce 23 to Australia. |
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2:57:19 PM |
ok ...THIS IS RATHER IMPORTANT ....ESPECIALLY AS KNOW ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS IF hb INTRODUCED 23 TO aUS ... ANYONE IN CONTACT WITH jOE fRIEND ? ...HE MUST KNOW... | |||||
3:50:54 PM |
Gotcha caps lock all in a twist Hex? On 30/03/2016 kieranl wrote: >Joe Friend did the FA of Albatross with rests. Lewis did the FFA. (If Joe went to Tassie after Qld, then this was also after his Insomnia 23 FA) On 30/03/2016 kieranl wrote: >Actually I think that's wrong - I think I'm remembering a photo of Friend >trying the FA of Albatross. >TheSarvo has Lewis with the FA and Barber with the FFA Stefan sheds the light! In a nutshell, HB fell on his repeat attempt of Albatross, pulled the rope then did it successfully, and the way Stefans post reads, HB begrudgingly confirms Lewis's grade of 23. ... and just to confuseya... his link was to Albatross (23) attempt by Roark Muhlen - Photo S Karpiniec |
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6:17:55 PM |
On 30/03/2016 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote: >GRADE 33 > >Probably Garth Miller in late 90s with things like Theda Beda (now 31/32 >? )...and Grey Area > >GRADE 34 > >Sneeky trouser snake ot sumthin ...I dunno......theres gotta be sport >freaks on this site who know this end inside out ... Pretty sure White Ladder the first 34, at the best crag in the country. |
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