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stugang
18/08/2012
10:50:20 AM
I've been getting back into climbing recently after a coupla years of doing sweet FA. Obviously I expected a bit of soreness after the first few sessions, but what's been weird is the pain is more of an ache and way more uncomfortable than anything I've experienced before.

Anyone know what I am talking about? Any tips/advice for minimising it? Or is it just a getting old thing?

IdratherbeclimbingM9
18/08/2012
10:55:06 AM
On 18/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>I've been getting back into climbing recently after a coupla years of doing
>sweet FA. Obviously I expected a bit of soreness after the first few sessions,
>but what's been weird is the pain is more of an ache and way more uncomfortable
>than anything I've experienced before.
>
>Anyone know what I am talking about? Any tips/advice for minimising it?
>Or is it just a getting old thing?


~> Welcome to the oldfartsclub bro!
Would you like a teaspoon of cement with that?
;-)

E. Wells
18/08/2012
11:24:00 AM
drink water and stretch everything alot before and after. ...like i dont.

shortman
18/08/2012
4:19:37 PM
Harden up Stu. Too many lattes, home cooked meals and useless chockstone posts.

shortman
18/08/2012
6:34:04 PM
Another thing Stu, is the mental side. Coming to terms with being medicore seems to compound the pain. Magnifying it and puttin everything into a strange perspective. The trick is to grab hold of the magnification; see ya yourself in all your former glory. Enjoy the moment and forget about it. Your destiny is steady decline from what you once were. Next year you will be even shitter and it will hurt even more. Accept it now and it will do a surprising amount for your pain. Reality is always the worlds elixer. Drink and you shall be better.

Duang Daunk
18/08/2012
6:42:30 PM
On 18/08/2012 shortman wrote:
>Another thing Stu, is the mental side. Coming to terms with being medicore
>seems to compound the pain. Magnifying it and puttin everything into a
>strange perspective. The trick is to grab hold of the magnification; see
>ya yourself in all your former glory. Enjoy the moment and forget about
>it. Your destiny is steady decline from what you once were. Next year you
>will be even shitter and it will hurt even more. Accept it now and it will
>do a surprising amount for your pain. Reality is always the worlds elixer.
>Drink and you shall be better.

Better at what?
dalai
18/08/2012
8:35:44 PM
On 18/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>I've been getting back into climbing recently after a coupla years of doing
>sweet FA. Obviously I expected a bit of soreness after the first few sessions,
>but what's been weird is the pain is more of an ache and way more uncomfortable
>than anything I've experienced before.

How frequent are your training sessions? Ache day and especially two days after training?

If your sessions are too far apart, you could just be experienceing DOMS?

stugang
18/08/2012
8:37:17 PM
Oh...I saw a post earlier from someone - its gone now. Anyway the best way to describe the pain is a combination of normal muscle soreness, and a cramp. Its the cramp thing thats weird.

I figure the "hydration" thing is probably the answer. But its still weird and am still curious to know if anyone has any other ideas of the non HTFU type.

And shorty, I am aspiring to be mediocre at the moment. I need to achieve it before coming to terms with it.

shortman
18/08/2012
8:44:17 PM
On 18/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>Oh...I saw a post earlier from someone - its gone now. Anyway the best
>way to describe the pain is a combination of normal muscle soreness, and
>a cramp. Its the cramp thing thats weird.
>
It was CliffD. First he wrote a novel, then he chopped it in half, and then he deleted the lot. Weird.

stugang
18/08/2012
8:49:04 PM
On 18/08/2012 dalai wrote:
>On 18/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>>I've been getting back into climbing recently after a coupla years of
>doing
>>sweet FA. Obviously I expected a bit of soreness after the first few
>sessions,
>>but what's been weird is the pain is more of an ache and way more uncomfortable
>>than anything I've experienced before.
>
>How frequent are your training sessions? Ache day and especially two days
>after training?
>
>If your sessions are too far apart, you could just be experienceing DOMS?

Oooh something helpful - finally. DOMS maybe that's it, but I've kind of been having 3-5 days in a row at burnley (sometimes twice a day) until I feel sick with pain at the thought of holding onto plastic/rock again. Then resting for a couple of days and then in for another bash.

As I said above, I expected the pain after such a layoff, just its kind of different pain to what I've had before (i.e. the cramp as well as muscle soreness).

Maybe I need to hydrate and add orange juice to the vodka in my drink bottle.

shortman
18/08/2012
9:03:23 PM
Losin a few kilo's wouldn't hurt either. Not that you are super tubby or anything.

Cramp when your not exercising is often a sign of the deeper muscles strugglin a bit.

Is your core sore? Through the psoas? Any particular side?
dalai
18/08/2012
9:10:58 PM
Doubt it would be DOMs given the frequency of your sessions. I only get this if training is infrequent...

I'd suggest the issue is that you aren't giving your body enough time between sessions to recover and for the muscles to repair the microtears (microtrauma) that strenous training causes.

http://www.indoorclimbing.com/overtraining.html

shortman
18/08/2012
9:20:13 PM
On 18/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>I've been getting back into climbing recently after a coupla years of doing
>sweet FA. Obviously I expected a bit of soreness after the first few sessions,
>but what's been weird is the pain is more of an ache and way more uncomfortable
>than anything I've experienced before.
>
>Anyone know what I am talking about? Any tips/advice for minimising it?
>Or is it just a getting old thing?

I know I've already said a heap of shit....but......I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and bring it all back to sitting. Avoid it as much as is possible.
dalai
18/08/2012
9:34:37 PM
On 18/08/2012 shortman wrote:
>I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and bring it all back to sitting. Avoid it as much as is possible.

Nonsense shortman!

Recovery is paramount to improvement! Hypertrophy / hyperplasia occurs when the body is resting after hard training, The training doesn't make you stronger, it's actually the time after training where the adaption occurs!

Naps too are also beneficial - body produces the greatest amount of HGH in the first 30 minutes of sleeping.

Still putting it down to over training. Could look at other causes if actually cramping? Hydration and nutrition? Possibly look at getting a bloods test done - seeing if you are deficient in minerals such as magnesium?

shortman
18/08/2012
9:40:00 PM
The body can't rest properly if it's sitting. Totally agree with what your saying about everything else dalai. Except the bit where u talk about nonsense.
dalai
18/08/2012
9:57:26 PM
So what do you suggest? Active recovery such as easy jogs etc? Nothing wrong with that, but doubt these will help much when stugang is climbing 3-5 days in a row including double day sessions...


shortman
18/08/2012
10:10:22 PM
Stand, lie down, (back or belly) , or exercise ball with some gentle resistance exercises if he must sit.

We are probably meeting at richmond bridge if ur not busy 2moro dalai.

Be good to meet face to face! And I reckon between us we could sort him out?
dalai
18/08/2012
10:39:53 PM
Will be good to see some chalk on Richmond bridge again. Commute past there every day and rarely see anyone use it these days...

Can't make tomorrow unfortunately.

Miguel75
18/08/2012
11:20:22 PM
On 18/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>I've been getting back into climbing recently after a coupla years of doing
>sweet FA. Obviously I expected a bit of soreness after the first few sessions,
>but what's been weird is the pain is more of an ache and way more uncomfortable
>than anything I've experienced before.
>
>Anyone know what I am talking about? Any tips/advice for minimising it?
>Or is it just a getting old thing?

I've heard some gnarly things about discombobulated chakras? Are you looking after yours?

stugang
19/08/2012
1:01:52 PM
cheers cliff, it is a serious post but more from curiosity not concern (yet). I also expected some banter from the usual suspects.

I'm not too stressed about the soreness yet as I know I have (purposely) overdoing it and expected to be hurting!

There are a few things "lifestylewise" recently too that probably haven't helped. Hoping that cleaning up a bit and climbing a wee bit less should help.

Finally, curious to know what stress would/could have to do with it?

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