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AZTAR hammer & Adze wanted

mvanderv

17-May-2011
9:40:13 AM

I am after a pair of CM Aztars axes. Old or new.

Will swap for other gear, including Petzy ID, assorted pulleys, rigging plate, size 12 Salomon Mountaineering boots, rope clamps,etc..... or I'll just give you the cash!

Cheers

Mick

citationx

17-May-2011
10:46:56 AM

gonzo is selling quarks herE: hope this works

quarks always felt a little more "solid" to me. weight behind the head. *shrug* just my thoughts.

Mike Bee

17-May-2011
10:49:15 AM

Any reason your particularly want the Aztars?
Just curious?

robertsonja

17-May-2011
1:02:44 PM

Go the Quarks, they are heavier but have a much better balance and feel. I still reckon they are the best in the business for mixed alpine routes.

The ones for sale also have the grip rests for a leash less conversion.

Aztars feel like little toys in comparison.

gonzo

17-May-2011
10:25:07 PM

buy my Quarks! thanks for the promo CitationX

actually i've climbed with both on both alpine and waterfall conditions (but not at the same time!). the Aztars are designed more for alpine stuff, they swing better into lower angled stuff and softer ice. They are lighter too. I've climbed on brittle WI in canada and they were hard work. Also lots of knuckle bashing (but maybe that was my technique).

The Quarks are heavier but also have a better weighted head - swing from the wrist more than the elbow and sink into hard ice nicely. They really excel in funky ice such as cauliflower/mushroom stuff, hook really well and have lots of clearance. The leashes are way better too and they also have a pinky rest so you can climb leashless and not bashes your knuckles. Having said all that, they don't swing so well into lower angled stuff - its not bad, but they are designed for steeper stuff.

ps. if you're going ice climbing, you'll probably need a new (second hand) downy too!

Mike Bee

17-May-2011
10:54:53 PM

I'd consider getting a pair of the latest Quarks.
Much lighter than the previous version, and the same modular head of the Nomic, so you can add pick weights if you want them, or add (or remove if climbing mixed) an adze. Petzl tools are still much more nicely balanced than BD I reckon. I preferred the new Quark over the Cobra and Viper.

I've played with the Aztars, and didn't like them at all. I climbed a couple of pitches on the old Quarks when I was in Canada in March, and didn't like them either. The new season Quarks were superior in every way to both, except maybe low angled (WI2) ice, the straighter shaft of the Aztar would be a bit better for that, but they were so far behind for everything else I wouldn't bother with them.

citationx

18-May-2011
9:27:09 AM

On 17/05/2011 gonzo wrote:
>buy my Quarks! thanks for the promo CitationX

No worries. Depending on how long it takes you to sell them, and depending on whether Neo is interested in going to NZ this year, I might buy them!
Still short of cash at the mo' yet so can't go splurging on even more gear...

workless_climbmore

18-May-2011
7:30:17 PM

Hi I have a pair of Aztars, hammer and adze, 2007, great condition.
Located in Melbourne, PM if you're interested.
Cheers,
steve

mvanderv

2-Jun-2011
6:02:21 PM

I allready have a pair of Quarks.... Great axes, fantastic on WI, but bloody useless on alpine. The Aztars on the other hand do work on WI, (bloody terrible on hard ice, you have to swing like a madman) and are pretty good on Alpine. The best thing is they are light and do most jobs pretty well.
But I do love my quarks. I wont be selling them anytime soon.

skink

3-Jun-2011
10:52:03 AM

On 2/06/2011 mvanderv wrote:
>bloody useless on alpine

bollocks

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