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Liquid Insanity 22-Apr-2018 At 9:15:44 PM One Day Hero

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On 19-Apr-2018 feetoffground wrote:
>And we bolted it because it’s one of the most
>beautiful Highlines at Point Perp, which I felt was a legitimate enough
>reason at the time.

There are plenty of aretes at the Point. You guys chose those ones cause they're close to the car, and maybe you like to show off to the tourists. I reckon the fact that it's the most public bit of the crag is pretty good reason to not f--- around. I sure as shit wouldn't bolt a new route in the lighthouse, don't feel super comfortable climbing there. Surely you can see that access has to be tenuous.

>If you can’t relate to the story that’s fine...

It's not that I can't relate, I just don't care. There are thousands of climbers who have just as strong a connection to Point Perp as you do. One of the guys who discovered the place for climbing 35 years ago posts here occasionally (he also chops the odd bolt, in case you're wondering). Don't bring your irrelevant personal experience to a debate on the management of a communal resource.

>I’m trying to work together with all user groups at this cliff to find
>the best outcome, but if people make personal attacks on me it doesn’t
>really fill me with joy and motivate me to destroy my own work.

Your own work is half an hour of careless sloppy crap, and I bet someone said "better to ask forgiveness than permission" while you were doing it. Which is often quite true as long as some vindictive prick doesn't come after your wider infrastructure to teach you a lesson.

>While I’m on the thread of trying to be constructive. How would people
>feel if I left one threaded rod at each Highline anchor?

I'd feel like you made an offer, then immediately negotiated your own offer downwards and pretended like that's how compromise works. I hate being so predictable to Harvey, but I can do a better chopping job than you and it won't even take very long.