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Risk in the mountains

Cliff

9-Sep-2012
2:33:15 PM

Article on risk in the mountains by climber and PG pilot Will Gadd. http://explore-mag.com/2831/adventure/the-grand-delusion

Miguel75

9-Sep-2012
3:15:40 PM

Ohhhh this is a fun one;) we had a great discussion about it here;

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=109558&PagePos=&Sort=&Replies=64&MsgPagePos=20

I still don't like his article. I think ODH framed it well,

On 17/03/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 16/03/2012 miguel75 wrote:
>>
>>When I first read Will's article I was slightly peeved by his tone, and
>>I can't really vocalise why. Maybe it will come later...
>>
>Allow me to assist.
>
>Gadd's article is annoying because he's written so much stuff in the past
>about how awesome and cool his dangerous shit is, and now he's questioning
>whether its worth it. Was he right before or is he right now? To paraphrase
>Yoda, "It all depends on your point of view"......or to paraphrase me "you
>can't have your fuching cake, and stuff your fuching face too"
>
>Its ok to be gung-ho and ignore risks, and its ok to be sensible and cautious,
>but not both in the same lifetime!........and pretending you're the first
>person who's done risky shiz in their youth only to wise up later is just
>pathetic!
>
>I much prefer the Euro-hardman approach to risk......I think they're just
>better at math. They know mountain shiz is risky but do it anyway. There
>seems to be much more of an acceptance of people getting whacked in the
>hills, without the north american style soul searching.

Ding ding ding; round 2

Hugh

9-Sep-2012
6:04:59 PM

Written to get a read perhaps??

Once again, ODH takes gold!

Miguel75

9-Sep-2012
8:01:02 PM

On 9/09/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>Gracias Miguel. No point continuing an old thread here.

De nada muchacho! This article popped up in the middle of a related thread, so would have been pretty hard to find via the search function, especially given it's via a different link.

Lets keep on keeping on; I reckon round 2 could be fun;)

I still think Will's sentiments are Wang!

One Day Hero

9-Sep-2012
8:07:00 PM

You're in a bit of a bad boy mood today, aren't you Miguel?

I wish Cliff would stop posting stuff, then substantially altering it, then deleting it. Cliff, if you write something, let it stand. If other people have a problem with what you wrote, abuse them.

Miguel75

9-Sep-2012
8:18:04 PM

On 9/09/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>You're in a bit of a bad boy mood today, aren't you Miguel?

Yeah, I'm trying to be passive aggressive but it just doesn't work for me. And I'm running low on pain killers;)

>I wish Cliff would stop posting stuff, then substantially altering it,
>then deleting it. Cliff, if you write something, let it stand. If other
>people have a problem with what you wrote, abuse them.

Yeah let 'em ride Cliff D. (Now you got me thinking of Public Enemy)

One Day Hero

9-Sep-2012
8:20:49 PM

Active aggressive is also good

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