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34? 31-May-2004 At 3:31:23 PM Damietta

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Rhymes with "Fark" but not with "Crikey!"

Look boys, we've canvassed this territory before. You change the grading system and then you don't have to worry about boldness - the trad climbers have their grades and their posse. The sportos have their grades, speedboat wankers and mosquito wall.

In terms of the deathroutes - Climbers who establish these are not putting up a new route to pass on the experience to the wider public - they are in it for their own experience and admission to some old school elite lads club. As long as we're clear on that then it's cool.

Other people put up new routes for different reasons - perhaps to add something useful to the cliff that opther people can enjoy.

All this B***shit about preserving the rock is exactly that - have a look at the impact of climbers on the living environment (ie where it actuyally matters) surrounding cliffs, the goat tracks, dunny rolls, campfires etc, and the removal of moss for the first ascent - ppffft!. If people are so concerned about preserving the environment, stay on the tracks and lookouts