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Figure 8 (no stopper)

12%

Single Bowline (no stopper)

Double Bowline (no stopper)

Figure 8 (with stopper)

56%

Single Bowline (with stopper)

Double Bowline (with stopper)

24%

I just thread it a couple times untill i feel safe

ropes why bother

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Im Knots About Climbing

fish boy

23-May-2007
11:28:40 AM

Falling on Bomber Pro: Something we can all enjoy....


muki

23-May-2007
1:47:44 PM

It sounds like you have an issue with me nick, judging from the hostile remarks you have made, I don't
know why you seem to be so uppset, I suggest you come and see me about it, we can have a campsite
chat. kind regards the bomb

patto

23-May-2007
2:30:26 PM

On 23/05/2007 mousey wrote:
>no, not quite that much fun
>and i was using the term rigger far too loosley, im just RA. regardless,
>i have been taught the same thing.
>
>if the stitching is not the weak point then it makes perfect sense that
>the strength would be doubled.

Even if the weak point was the stitching then it still makes perfect sense!

When you double a sling you a now distributing the forces over four strands rather than 2. So each strand feels only 1/4 of the total force.

Simarly each strand and the bar tacking is only rated for a bit over 11kN, but since slings are used as a loop the entire thing is rated for 22kN.

**This argument ignores the strength reductions made due to the radius, so the strands and bar tacking would be rated over 11kN.

For what its worth I use a figure 8. Simple, reliable. Sure some people might find it a pain in the ass to untie, but I have never had any issues. (maybe I'm too light or not taking big enough falls) But each to their own.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

23-May-2007
2:54:16 PM

>Im Knots About Climbing
Apt thread title?
With an icon resembling a goat; …On 23/05/2007 M9iswhereitsat wrote:
>It is funny how bystanders can often see both sides (snip)
&straight after …
On 23/05/2007 fish boy wrote:
>Bomber only ever see's his side...arrogant goat.
Later bp wrote;
>It sounds like you have an issue with me

With communication difficulties on forums, this could easily have been taken as a comment to M9 (and not to bp), so maybe I too should join the campfire/campsite love-in?
… much better than sitting here where I am now at least! Can I bring a jaffle iron for cooking with now that fire season is over and we have had some rain?
As long as no-one puts an unopened can of food in the fire I think we should be right...
Heh, heh, heh.
:)
:)


muki

23-May-2007
5:37:35 PM

Rod you're more than wellcome to come and help nick through his problems, he seems in dire need of
some therapy, I'm thinking shock might do the trick, but we'll see, I'm doubtfull of any real improvement.
Almost as doubtfull he'll even turn up! it's so much easier to say those sort of things when you are a just
a line of print on a screen, I doubt that he'd have the balls to say that sort of shit to my face.


n00bpwn3r

23-May-2007
6:01:59 PM

I go away for a few weeks climbing, log on only to find Bomber n00b is still carrying on with his school yard bully crap, very sad individual. Just because he's questioned his only defence is aggression, who's the person who needs therapy?


muki

24-May-2007
12:21:11 PM

so the n00b is trying to say somthing, but a long time ago I decided that you have nothing worth listening
to so I deleted all your comments by selecting the ignore posts button, this is a great function as now all
I see is a small grey blank area, not too disimilar from actually reading whatever you post! fishboys now
in the same garbage bin! thanks Mike this is a great function, I no longer have to suffer idiots or trolls.


n00bpwn3r

24-May-2007
1:29:42 PM

So I guess you'll have no idea who chops the bolts on your worthless routes at Araps then, not to mention that mess you created on Alis.


Eduardo Slabofvic

24-May-2007
1:48:41 PM

On 24/05/2007 bomber pro wrote:
>so the n00b is trying to say somthing, but a long time ago I decided that
>you have nothing worth listening
>to so I deleted all your comments by selecting the ignore posts button,
>this is a great function as now all
>I see is a small grey blank area, not too disimilar from actually reading
>whatever you post! fishboys now
>in the same garbage bin! thanks Mike this is a great function, I no longer
>have to suffer idiots or trolls.

So, how did you know he wrote something?


IdratherbeclimbingM9

24-May-2007
2:51:32 PM

ES wrote
>So, how did you know he wrote something?

bp wrote
>I see is a small grey blank area,

The user name also comes up but not the text.
Easy to try, just tick that box on any given user profile. (You can always change it back again later if you want).


Eduardo Slabofvic

24-May-2007
2:58:54 PM

On 24/05/2007 M9iswhereitsat wrote:
>The user name also comes up but not the text.
>Easy to try, just tick that box on any given user profile. (You can always
>change it back again later if you want).

But it might have been a photo with no words.


Sabu

24-May-2007
3:36:42 PM

On 23/05/2007 bomber pro wrote:
>>Also, the sugar in a coffee cup is not a wives tale, it's chemistry.
>I said OLD wives tail
For the love of God i hope you're not serious....!!!

bp might i have the gall to suggest a less directive/forceful method of putting forward your oppinion, seems to create a lot of unneeded angst.
This thread and some other previous ones seem to get out of hand rather quickly so how bout everyone just relaxes and leaves the personal insults/directives behind.

btw dalai u keeping a tally of how many times that picture has been required? lol!

dalai

24-May-2007
3:45:45 PM

On 24/05/2007 Sabu wrote:
>btw dalai u keeping a tally of how many times that picture has been required?
>lol!

It's been required a lot more times than I've used it...


muki

24-May-2007
4:09:14 PM

Sabu, just reread the posts, you will find that I started out by puting forward an opinion,thats all!
When jokers started lieing about weird forces on bowlines, I told them they were wrong, then others
started in on wether or not a sling could be doubled in strenght/holding power I told them they were
wrong, then the insults started coming in, and then some loser wanabes started just insulting with no
good reason other than they are tossers, even prefers knitpicking has had others point out her mistake,
but she has not replied, only interested in having a go, not interested in the truth! the uneeded angst you
percieve is not generated by me I am simply responding to it in kind, reread the posts and see for
yourself.


Sabu

24-May-2007
4:38:42 PM

ja fair enough. but returning the insults/angst solves nothing too.

Fish Boy

24-May-2007
5:32:51 PM

You'd think the old arthritic clown would be a little more mature...we have an excuse.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

24-May-2007
5:37:43 PM

On 24/05/2007 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:
>But it might have been a photo with no words.

... now there's a thought.
We can share the angst silent picture fashion.
A bit like going to the old silent movies, and we can rattle our hexes at our own user locations to simulate dramatic tension!
Just need to be careful what knot your hexes are tied with ...
Heh, heh, heh.
:-P


muki

24-May-2007
5:43:26 PM

Hey Sabu, Just wondering why I was the one singled out by you for a reprimand, when the comments
made by fishboy and probably nOOb, (he's always spraying some offensive shit) were left unmentioned.
Or have you blocked their spray as well? Just seems a bit strange that you were upset by my comments
and not theirs? very one sided, "ja fair enough"

Snowball

24-May-2007
5:55:37 PM

BP-Having read back over this thread I see little evidence of you defending yourself, just examples of you abusing people.

On 23/05/2007 n00bpwn3r wrote:
>I go away for a few weeks climbing, log on only to find Bomber n00b is
>still carrying on with his school yard bully crap, very sad individual.
>Just because he's questioned his only defence is aggression, who's the
>person who needs therapy?

I find this far less abusive than you calling people stupid and slow, and shouting at people who don't agree with you.

I also agree with n00bpwn3r's comments about the mess you made of Alis, please go fix it before someone just nchops it.

dalai

24-May-2007
5:59:27 PM

This is getting us nowhere. Lets all start showing a little maturity people! Otherwise the time out chair may make an appearance...

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