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liquid chalk

mousey
26/03/2004
10:37:06 AM
i nkow there's plenty of other topic about this, but i was after some REAL info regarding the Beal Super Grip, or the Metolius Eco Chalk Ball.
I have to prepare a detailed report on how they can reduce visual/enviro impact

vwills
26/03/2004
1:13:35 PM
Ah the things that qualify as school work these days! I reckon you need to get a hold of some, go climbing for a week and then get a blinded assessor to rate the visual impact on the rock of the chalk types. Better still, enrol in environmental science, go climbing for 3 years and make it a thesis topic for your pHD.
joemor
26/03/2004
1:30:43 PM
liquid chalk as such is just iso alchohol and chalk....... dunno if that helps?

neats
26/03/2004
3:48:47 PM
I used it once while bouldering. Its not messy (unless you accidentally pour heaps in your palm), dries very quickly and most importantly doesn't leave as much (if any) white chalk dust all over stuff. Don't know if this will help you tho...

jens
26/03/2004
3:56:43 PM
Played around with making my own (metho and chalk+talk) seems to work well as a base. The metho delivers the chalk/talk deeper into your pores and keeps your hands dryer for longer. I still used powder chalk after, but not half as much. This would be a positive on the environment.

Any questions? I'll try and help.

Jens

Rich
26/03/2004
4:28:03 PM
..bbjlhhhhljkhljkhjlk
does that help?
na prob not.. ahh cmon 5:30
joemor
26/03/2004
6:44:25 PM
metho is not as good iso... doesnt evaporate as quickly as its not as pure..... or somthing...??

rodw
26/03/2004
7:31:39 PM
What does extended use of the alcohol to for the skin??? Has anyone used this stuff long enough to notice any bad side effects....just asking.

mousey
26/03/2004
10:54:48 PM
On 26/03/2004 vwills wrote:
>Ah the things that qualify as school work these days! I reckon you need
>to get a hold of some, go climbing for a week and then get a blinded assessor
>to rate the visual impact on the rock of the chalk types. Better still,
>enrol in environmental science, go climbing for 3 years and make it a thesis
>topic for your pHD.

sure thats the best way to do it ness, but the report was due in last period today...:)
bne
27/03/2004
3:50:25 AM
thanks rich....makes much more sense now...but how do you carry liquid chalk in your chalk bag??? would probably be excellent for getting the camp fire started at the end of a days climbing....i hope that helps.
ben the hack

mousey
27/03/2004
8:49:21 AM
On 26/03/2004 rodw wrote:
>What does extended use of the alcohol to for the skin??? Has anyone used
>this stuff long enough to notice any bad side effects....just asking.

i noticed ness was a little groggy last time i saw her, is that a possible side affect? i think she may have ignored the 'external use only' warning

trent
29/03/2004
3:39:22 PM
i have been using liquid chalk ( aka "liquid stiction") for about 12 months. i just mix magnesium carbonate light (climbing chalk) and ethanol (pure alcohol). It works a treat for bouldering as well as the inital chalk application for a roped climb. It lasts heaps longer than loose or balled chalk and the ethanol drys your hands beyond the point chalk ever could. i bought some 70 cent flip top squirt bottles from a plastics wholesaler then added a velcro closure to the cap after half a bottle got spilled in the back of my mates forester. It doesnt come out of carpet very well.

Rich
29/03/2004
3:43:58 PM
On 27/03/2004 bne wrote:
>thanks rich....makes much more sense now...but how do you carry liquid
>chalk in your chalk bag??? would probably be excellent for getting the
>camp fire started at the end of a days climbing....i hope that helps.
>ben the hack

i think you fill up a whole lot of little water balloons and periodically burst them each time you want some chalk.. and like you said, great for the campfire ;-)
does that help too? ;)

jens
29/03/2004
6:40:36 PM
I only use it to chalk up before I start to climb, or before each pitch. During climbing I still use the normal loose chalk or ball. I saved my little aftershave squeeze bottles to mix in, as larger bottles are to big and the stuff still dries out in them, after a couple of months.
At the end of the day, I wash and lube my hands with dettol cream. This give your hands a bit of moisture as well as desinfect some of those little nicks and cuts.
If you use it over a few days straight, your hands will start to crack though. If you don't care about that, than it's the 'ducks nuts'.

vwills
29/03/2004
7:40:13 PM
Alcohol is a better disinfectant than dettol ever will be. Long term alcohol on your skin does dry it badly and make it crack. In the days before universal precautions (ie wearing gloves) people who put in lots of cannulas, did venepuncture etc used to have very dry cracked index fingers from using alcowipes to disinfect the site. Dry skin is fragile skin.

mousey
29/03/2004
7:56:59 PM
so any ideas on alcohol alternatives? i certainly dont want my beautiful skin getting tarnished in the quest for traction...

rodw
29/03/2004
9:44:27 PM
In the dark ages it was rumoured that a few of the hard core nowra climbers (in the days when it was still a secret crag) used formaldehyde on the hands as it killed of the sweat glands, didnt work though as a months later they had massives cracks in the palms and fingers as the skin deteriorated...no sweat though.

How is that hand modeling career going anyway way MM?

mousey
29/03/2004
9:53:23 PM
ah ive given up on it...the stress of rivalry between models was too much. now that i can climb without worry about my tips, ill be able to acheieve my lifelong dream of onsighting Mechanical Animals in a jester hat and clown shoes...

vwills
3/04/2004
2:29:00 PM
Fomalin/formaldehyde doesnt help your hands either, and certainly doesnt kill of sweat glands. (2 years of it- don't ask) You could have the sympathetic nerve supply to your hands cut f you want to sweat less but then you often get very sweaty feet to compensate.
ljam
21/05/2004
7:21:51 AM
There is another antibacterial lotion besides Dettol that may work well for climbers. I haven't tried it for climbing but have used it for other reasons. It is antibacterial and a skin protectant - sort of puts a thin glove layer on your hand. Haristylists use it to prevent dyes from seeping deep into the skin. Industrial workers use it to prevent harmful chemicals from reaching them. Nurses use it to prevent bacterial transfers. It is available from a small company in Portland, Oregon called Biosafe. See http://www.biosafe-inc.com/index.htm

Just a thought!

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