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31-Jul-2012 9:14:22 AM
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Wendy... tried half-ropes? :p
I don't clip biner to biner personally, but then I tend to carry almost as much length in slings as in rope.
The other interesting one I've heard (from old UK tradsters) is that if you put a draw on a cam, you should take the racking biner off because it can cause issues with cam walking and the like, anyone else heard this one?
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31-Jul-2012 11:24:42 AM
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Another point which i dont think anyone has mentioned above is that the rock/gear/bolt end of a draw can often be scratched in the upper corner at the touching point to the gear or bolt. When you clip metal to metal this scratched/coarse area is now in contact with the smooth metal where the rope normally runs through. It may only be minor but the coarse area rubbing on the smooth area will coarsen the smooth biner over time. This is turn will scratch up your sheath next time the smooth end is used against the rope. Effectively this is the same as if you clip the draw ends the wrong way around can cut through or severely damage a rope in the worst case.
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31-Jul-2012 1:54:13 PM
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On 30/07/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 30/07/2012 martym wrote:
>>I've checked and there are definite scratch marks and sharp bits in my
>>"wall biners"
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>So why don't you get a little bit proactive and use a bit of fine sandpaper
>to get rid of the burrs? It's not like climbing gear explodes when it gets
>touched by tools.
Because my new baby dominates most of my time and unfortunately my rack is gathering dust at the moment. Once I've got a few free hours, I'll fix my bike so it stops making that clicking noise. Then I'll repair the rocking chair. Then get the carpet stain remover out .................
On 30/07/2012 Batey wrote:
>Or just give them to us so we cant "test" them....
No, sorry - I hope to drag it out again one day in the not so distant future...
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31-Jul-2012 6:39:31 PM
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On 31/07/2012 GriZZly wrote:
>Another point which i dont think anyone has mentioned above is that the
>rock/gear/bolt end of a draw can often be scratched in the upper corner
>at the touching point to the gear or bolt. When you clip metal to metal
>this scratched/coarse area is now in contact with the smooth metal where
>the rope normally runs through. It may only be minor but the coarse area
>rubbing on the smooth area will coarsen the smooth biner over time. This
>is turn will scratch up your sheath next time the smooth end is used against
>the rope. Effectively this is the same as if you clip the draw ends the
>wrong way around can cut through or severely damage a rope in the worst
>case.
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It is good to see you honouring your word(!), ... and I appreciate that!!
Regarding the 'emboldened bit'; you are right, it is minor.
In my experience, I have noticed that rope abrasion generally equals the issue you are talking about, and so tends to even things out...; however this is different for the krab that is generally on the hanger end of quickdraws, and they still require smoothing off of their burrs from time to time.
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31-Jul-2012 7:39:22 PM
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GriZZly, not many posts before yours it was discussed, but rope failure from this has never been reported only minor damage, hence a mild buffing with sandpaper to solve the problem.
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