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BD X4 single stem: master cam clones?

ajfclark
16/07/2012
7:36:57 AM
Via Ceder Wright's FB page:

Behold and drool! the New Black Diamond Equipment X4 single stem four camming unit. Psyched to take these babies for a spin!!!
egosan
16/07/2012
11:26:20 AM
Interesting. The benefits of single axle in the small sizes and the double axle in the larger sizes. Would be curious to hear what camming angle they use.
mikllaw
16/07/2012
12:05:38 PM
I have an old one of these, probably the yellow, single axle. Found at Seneca 5 years ago; Americans don't spend more than 30 seconds trying to remove a cam. Works well.

salty crag
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16/07/2012
3:45:19 PM
I'm drooling! Could have done with a few of the small ones yesterday.
patto
16/07/2012
4:23:27 PM
Yeah I've been curious about these for a while. There have been hundreds of designs for single axle cams yet BD made these look just like master cams! (I suppose dragons look pretty close to C4s too)

The best thing about master cams in the small sizes is their smaller cam angle to get a solid grip. Not sure about these, I'd like to know cam angle too.

On 16/07/2012 mikllaw wrote:
>I have an old one of these, probably the yellow, single axle. Found at
>Seneca 5 years ago; Americans don't spend more than 30 seconds trying to
>remove a cam. Works well.

Quite incredible! Proof that time travel does exist!

Sorry Mike but these aren't even on the market yet. :-) And while pre-release testing occurs, I don't think these have been hidden away for 5 years!

sliamese
16/07/2012
5:24:41 PM
Thats why he got the trad golden carrot, us mere mortals cant truly appreciate how thats possible?

hawkman
17/07/2012
5:07:10 AM
The entire set are actually twin axel its just the smallest three use a stacked axle. don't have the range specs yet but they are pretty unique.

ajfclark
17/07/2012
7:17:50 AM
On 16/07/2012 mikllaw wrote:
>I have an old one of these, probably the yellow, single axle. Found at Seneca 5 years ago; Americans don't spend more than 30 seconds trying to remove a cam. Works well.

Do you mean the yellow version of the old style micro camalots? I can't find a decent picture, but I know one person that still climbs with both the red and yellow of these:

ajfclark
17/07/2012
7:21:17 AM
On 17/07/2012 hawkman wrote:
>The entire set are actually twin axel its just the smallest three use a stacked axle. don't have the range specs yet but they are pretty unique.

Found some more pictures and talk here: http://www.climberism.com/gear-talk-new-black-diamond-camalot-x4/




And more here: http://climbs2high.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/new-bd-cams.html
mikllaw
17/07/2012
8:46:11 AM
On 17/07/2012 ajfclark wrote:
>On 16/07/2012 mikllaw wrote:
>>I have an old one of these, probably the yellow, single axle.

>Do you mean the yellow version of the old style micro camalots? I can't
>find a decent picture, but I know one person that still climbs with both
>the red and yellow of these:
>

yes, that's it, single axle
davepalethorpe
19/07/2012
9:35:25 AM
UKC/UKH at OutDoor 2012 - the Black Diamond Camalot x4
One Day Hero
19/07/2012
10:04:57 AM
On 17/07/2012 hawkman wrote:
>The entire set are actually twin axel its just the smallest three use a
>stacked axle.

Wow, the axle must look like a crankshaft, sounds like a lot of trouble to go to for an extra mil of range. I was wondering how the hell they'd thread the inner lobes onto the crankshaft, but I reckon I might have worked it out :)

muki
19/07/2012
11:07:54 AM
Looks good, will love to see these hands on when they are finally available in Oz.
I wonder how small they go in comparison to the single axle C3 000.
uwhp510
19/07/2012
12:25:53 PM
Do you reckon it's like this?


muki
19/07/2012
12:57:46 PM
doesn't look as secure as a twin axel will be interesting to read the tech specs on the holding power of these units?
One Day Hero
19/07/2012
2:53:19 PM
On 19/07/2012 uwhp510 wrote:
>Do you reckon it's like this?

Fark! I had this rather complicated idea which would be really fiddly to assemble. Your drawing is 500000000000 times more likely to be how they did it (except that the lobes need to point the other way)

wombly
19/07/2012
3:57:36 PM
the bits that the guy in the promo is bandying around in the video shows pretty clearly that nick's drawing is on the money...

Hawkman
20/07/2012
3:54:10 AM
Yeah that drawing is basically it for the three smallest sizes. They are very flexible as well (ie the loop can be folded onto the head) in all directions.
Isildur
20/07/2012
12:40:18 PM
What I'm more interested in is what's happening between BD & Five-Ten? The guy showing off the X4 in that vid is wearing one of those rubber wristbands, with the branding showing both 5-10 and BD...

Have they got something in the works?
egosan
27/07/2012
8:48:47 AM
http://vimeo.com/46403584
Spring 2013 I am guessing that means April/May 2013

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