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Attention Neil Monteith


IdratherbeclimbingM9

8-Mar-2012
4:46:05 PM

On 8/03/2012 nmonteith wrote:
>I pulled onto the start holds of every un-climbed bit of rock at Sublime
>- thus it's now marked as mine. That is all.

That is all: ... that was past tense...

~> All those lines were aided before I was born!
Heh, heh, heh.


Macciza

8-Mar-2012
4:47:45 PM

On 8/03/2012 benjenga wrote:
>
>You know that makes no sense and your just marking your territory??
>

It was my way of saying it is a trad project, and it makes sense in the same way as if I had put three bolts in the start whilst attempting it . . .

And yes, I suppose I may be 'marking my territory', but it is rather difficult to 'mark it' any other way if the idea is to 'not mark it with bolts' , I cleaned it a little and put chalk on it . . .


Macciza

8-Mar-2012
4:55:29 PM

On 8/03/2012 nmonteith wrote:
>I pulled onto the start holds of every un-climbed bit of rock at Sublime

You know that makes no sense and you're just marking your territory??

Pulling on start holds does not matter, come on . . .

Deciding an obviously unclimbed start to something is a line, roping up and making a concerted effort to climb it until upward progress is stopped by circumstance does, fundamental rule of the mountains . . .

Fish Boy

8-Mar-2012
5:03:24 PM

Keep keeping it real Macca!

One Day Hero

8-Mar-2012
5:13:54 PM

Funny things about this little pissing match;

#1 - Macca getting all excited about some unclimbed natural lines.......but only after the bolting train arrives. Despite the pressing need (now) to do these things on gear, they weren't so important in the preceding 20yrs (or however long Macca has been kicking around up there)

#2 - Neil holding the exact opposite position to the one he held when Adam and Dave were involved in a pissing match over a trad route in the Grampians.

#3 - The fact that a few people are telling Macca that his line 'won't go' on trad........but will somehow mysteriously go on bolts (to the not so hard cranking Bundy)??? I always thought you could chip trad routes just as easily as you can chip sport routes?


nmonteith

8-Mar-2012
5:22:22 PM

I'm just stirring the pot. It would be cool if Macca does it on gear, but I just thought I'd mention that he is certainly not the only one to be sniffing around that line over the last month or so. The fact I rapped it, trundled loose stuff, chalked up some holds and tried a few moves off the rope does actually count for something. I just suggest Macca gets down there quick smart and really stakes his claim as trad lines have traditionally been open season as far as I'm aware - I'll give you a belay on sunday if you want Macca! It's not the greatest line - I thought it looked pretty sandy and one move wondery. But what it is, is the LAST obvious line in the dry cave!


Bundybear

8-Mar-2012
5:41:32 PM

On 8/03/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>Funny things about this little pissing match;
>
>#3 - The fact that a few people are telling Macca that his line 'won't
>go' on trad........but will somehow mysteriously go on bolts (to the not
>so hard cranking Bundy)??? I always thought you could chip trad routes
>just as easily as you can chip sport routes?

I'm the hardest cranker ever !! :-))

Anyway, the section of the climb Macca played on trad would be no harder than 18, the real climbing would be pulling over the rooflet and on to the nice wall. I think it would only be 24/5 direct. The direct line would be on bolts, where as the trad line would wonder around on the crap rock and hence a different grade !!


Macciza

8-Mar-2012
9:52:52 PM

On 8/03/2012 Fish Boy wrote:
>Keep keeping it real Macca!

Cheers Matey, How's things? That solo outing of yours looked nice. . .
I should get you to send some exotic aid gear over sometime .. . .
MM

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