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Gear lost/taken near Stapyton Summit


Miguel75

13-Dec-2011
10:02:22 PM

On 13/12/2011 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 12/12/2011 Miguel75 wrote:
>>Where did you dig up that pic M9?
>
>Concerned are we?
>
>~~ODH~~ someone gave it to me, but reckoned he got it from a bloke
>who recently graduated from tests that included crawling around in smokey
>places, and was out celebrating with his other firey mates who were likewise
>wearing various bits of fire-engine-red garb(!) ~> while chanting in unison
>"get down low, and go, go, go!"
>

Not concerned, more amazed at how quickly pics can go viral. I only graduated last week and can't believe the speed with which the graduation pics have made the rounds! I'm just really glad you can't see my the dudes face in the pic. That could have been really embarrassing:)

Bam Bam

13-Dec-2011
10:35:46 PM

Typical Chockstone bullshit.

ODH - whoever you are (i dont care enough to find out) - you sound complacently ignorant. This saddens me. I feel for your children, if you have any.

This is theft. The gear was a set-up used in an obscure area with little to no other foot traffic. It was originally put there so Alrob could get in close, clean and inspect and hopefully put up another classic highball for armchair judge judy's like ODH, to dare i say it be inspired by. More likely there will another thread on here about how highballs shouldn't have rap inspection or someother dribble that falls from the retards drooped apendage.

RNM

14-Dec-2011
12:24:13 AM

Wonder if there is a trend.

Those that put up routes can empathise and are on the 'theft' end of the spectrum.

The weekend warriors don't quite get this perspective, and are all falling into the booty camp.

I've left gear stashed for long periods of time, and would hate to think that someone coming across it would think it was fair game.

One Day Hero

14-Dec-2011
12:36:31 AM

On 13/12/2011 Bam Bam wrote:
>Typical Chockstone bullshit.
>
>ODH - whoever you are (i dont care enough to find out) - you sound complacently
>ignorant. This saddens me. I feel for your children, if you have any.
>
>This is theft. The gear was a set-up used in an obscure area with little
>to no other foot traffic. It was originally put there so Alrob could get
>in close, clean and inspect and hopefully put up another classic highball
>for armchair judge judy's like ODH, to dare i say it be inspired by. More
>likely there will another thread on here about how highballs shouldn't
>have rap inspection or someother dribble that falls from the retards drooped
>apendage.

Just had to quote this in case Bam Bam tries to ruin my joke by deleting it :D

paz

14-Dec-2011
12:42:51 AM

pity teepee deleted his post from last night....

On 13/12/2011 tnd wrote:
>On 12/12/2011 Paz wrote:
>>...Losing your gear after leaving it for a day or two is unlucky. Losing
>>your gear after leaving it there for months is your own fault...
>
>No it's not, it's the fault of the degenerate, parasitical piece of filth
>who took it.
>
hahaha, and i thought i was fond of hyperbole. I'd like to hear how you describe josef fritzl.

it's good this is now cleared up. i never knew national parks were really just a big fort knox storage centre. i wonder if alrob was continuing to pay his fees? Or are new routers exempt from such.

either way your view, i think you'll find you lose less gear if you assume climbers are fried-chicken stealing scumbags. if you care for it enough, work the project then take it down or leave a note. if i walked up to the summit, saw it, and came back 2 months later and it was still there with no sign of the owner, sorry. similarly if i left it there for 2 months and came to find it gone, I'd blame myself....

camming devices aren't native.

Fish Boy

14-Dec-2011
3:12:48 AM

I completely agree with Paz, which is probably not a surprise....

lacto

14-Dec-2011
8:23:27 AM

I know how you feel a person I know carefully parked a few very worn out cars in the bush years ago and with the increasing scrap prices he went back to collect them but some SCUMBAG had stolen them !! surely it was obvious that they were just temporarily parked . I am eagerly awaiting the people who have left all their aluminium cans on the side of the road near us to come back and collect them ( suprisingly 80 % are alcoholic , mainly cola mixers ) If you want to keep stuff dont leave it behind value is in the eye of the beholder your gear is some elses rubbish , booty or scrap


tnd

14-Dec-2011
8:59:12 AM

Thieving cnuts and those who support them will always find some way to justify their behaviour. They're still thieving cnuts.


Maxo

14-Dec-2011
9:35:24 AM

This is crazy. The 'booty' camp seems to be confusing Alrob's misplaced (in hindsight) trust in other climbers as a justification for stealing from him. That kind of thinking is arse-backward.

Paz - if we accept your world view, is it ok to go chopping bolted rap anchors that have been in for more than 2 months?

Lacto - you're a fool. How is setting up a rap anchor and leaving it the same as abandoning rubbish in the bush, at least in the eyes of a climber, who the thief obviously was.

One Day Hero

14-Dec-2011
4:17:37 PM

I think the 3rd pitch of The Bard is a little dirty and quite tricky climbing. Reckon I might go and set an anchor so I can rap in to clean and inspect the line. Shouldn't be a problem to leave the gear in for a month or 2, should it? Surely no one who happens across it will assume its booty?

widewetandslippery

14-Dec-2011
4:30:12 PM

I know a fella, we'll just call him m20 whoclimbed the bard with a nut tool anmd a BD hammer.$$$$ heh heh heh$ thjere is booty, spiols of war and theft amd if u can't get it ui arte a fuiktard


Pat

14-Dec-2011
4:30:38 PM

No we wont. Better use all your cams just to be on the safe side.


Maxo

14-Dec-2011
9:07:52 PM

On 14/12/2011 One Day Hero wrote:
>I think the 3rd pitch of The Bard is a little dirty and quite tricky climbing.
>Reckon I might go and set an anchor so I can rap in to clean and inspect
>the line. Shouldn't be a problem to leave the gear in for a month or 2,
>should it? Surely no one who happens across it will assume its booty?

Oh yeah, sorry, you're right. I forgot the part where he was cleaning a popular classic at a busy crag.

One Day Hero

14-Dec-2011
11:54:29 PM

On 14/12/2011 Maxo wrote:
>
>Oh yeah, sorry, you're right. I forgot the part where he was cleaning
>a popular classic at a busy crag.

Sweet, I was hoping someone would say that.

So, if you leave gear on a popular and easy classic, you should expect the next person who happens along (15mins later) to clean it. But if you leave gear on a remote and difficult boulder and the next person who happens along (2 months later) cleans it, that's unexpected, outrageous and blatent theft?

You guys are developer snob wankers! Care to name any of the mega-classic routes you've established, which have helped to generate these gigantic egos? What goes for a popular grade 12, goes for an obscure V12 too.


Maxo

15-Dec-2011
12:19:23 AM

>Sweet, I was hoping someone would say that.
>
>So, if you leave gear on a popular and easy classic, you should expect
>the next person who happens along (15mins later) to clean it. But if you
>leave gear on a remote and difficult boulder and the next person who happens
>along (2 months later) cleans it, that's unexpected, outrageous and blatent
>theft?

Who said anything about 15 minutes? And how is someone swiping a retreat anchor from Bard after 15 minutes not stealing? You're not making any sense. To leave your rig on Bard for 2 months looks like you're abandoning it. To leave your rig in an obscure and hard to reach place for 2 months doesn't.

>You guys are developer snob wankers! Care to name any of the mega-classic
>routes you've established, which have helped to generate these gigantic
>egos? What goes for a popular grade 12, goes for an obscure V12 too.

What has this got to do with ego?

One Day Hero

15-Dec-2011
12:39:32 AM

On 15/12/2011 Maxo wrote:
>To leave your rig on Bard for 2 months looks like you're abandoning
>it. To leave your rig in an obscure and hard to reach place for 2 months
>doesn't.

I don't understand how you can come to this conclusion. Leaving gear in one place looks different to leaving it in another? Can you expand on how the gear looks different depending on where its left?

>
>What has this got to do with ego?

The idea that 'route developing abandoned gear' is to be treated differently to 'route repeating abandoned gear', is a wierd construct based on your subconscious ideas that developing is superior to "just climbing"

I think people should return found gear to the owner if they can be identified. I'm not saying Alrob deserves to lose his gear, just that its a bit silly to leave it out there for so long and expect it to look anything other than abandoned to most eyes.


mattjr

15-Dec-2011
11:36:58 AM

On 15/12/2011 One Day Hero wrote:

>I think people should return found gear to the owner if they can be identified.
>I'm not saying Alrob deserves to lose his gear, just that its a bit silly
>to leave it out there for so long and expect it to look anything other
>than abandoned to most eyes.

EXACTLY


shortman

15-Dec-2011
12:01:27 PM

Years before I started climbing with ropes and gear, I would solo easy lookin lines from the ground up and often come across gear stashed or stuck nuts and the like. Because I wasn't a climber and usually shittin myself I never stopped to take it. However it did look a bit like junk to me when I didn't know what is was. But bags of ropes and bivvies with food stashes seemed pretty obviously left behind by someone who was comin back. More walkers and weirdos go to most of the places we climb at than climbers.

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