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weird gear- or how to die

contactgav
1/12/2009
7:57:38 PM
On 1/12/2009 evanbb wrote:
>I think he clearly violated the second law. 70kg man falling 8m, that's
>gonna hurt someone.

true, i suppose carrying him out could violate manual handling restrictions

porkpie
1/12/2009
8:29:52 PM
The guy is a total tool - unfortunately Darwinism doesn't hold true in this case and the USA gene pool just got shallower.

SteveC
1/12/2009
10:04:35 PM
This guy is wearing a beanie whilst soloing for the camera at a populated crag. He is violating all of my
rules. Apart from the socks. I am down with that.
patto
2/12/2009
12:15:22 AM
On 1/12/2009 nmonteith wrote:
>I wonder what condition his hands were in after that!

I don't see why I would be worried about his hands because I doubt the rope was slipping through them. The rope wasn't fixed, it was a looped top and you can here the rope whipping throught the top anchors.

Still I'm surprised the negative response this video has gotten both here and on rockclimbing.com where it has been vigorously discussed. There is little difference between this guy and hundred other people who solo. Unless you condemn all soloing then I think it is prudent to withhold judgent on this one guy for who things went pear shaped.
simey
2/12/2009
9:04:07 AM
On 2/12/2009 patto wrote:
>There is little difference between this guy and hundred other people who solo.

I think there is fair bit of difference between this guy and a lot of other people who solo.

There is good soloing and bad soloing.

Good soloing is when you have extensive experience, climb well within your capabilities, can downclimb everything you climb up and always remain in control of your situation. Once you step over the line into territory where you are not comfortable downclimbing what you have climbed up, then you probably don't belong there.

I think the guy in the video was demonstrating bad soloing.

Roped climbing can be just as dangerous as soloing however. Ropes, helmets and protection might provide an illusion of safety but are no guarantee that you won't kill yourself either. Just like soloing, it all depends on how you go about it.

Duncan
2/12/2009
10:20:28 AM
The immense douchiness of his comments also contribute to my low opinion of him.

nmonteith
2/12/2009
10:57:56 AM
I'd be interested to know if the interview with him was filmed before or after the fall? I kind of presume
before - which makes it even worse. Comparing himself to John Bachar.... hmmmm.

evanbb
2/12/2009
11:22:16 AM
On 2/12/2009 nmonteith wrote:
>I'd be interested to know if the interview with him was filmed before or
>after the fall? I kind of presume
>before - which makes it even worse. Comparing himself to John Bachar....
>hmmmm.

Yeah, I got the impression that Bachar had a pretty god idea of his limits...

mattjr
2/12/2009
11:32:59 AM
On 1/12/2009 oldfella wrote:
>it was unfortunate and he was very lucky. but really, who are we to judge
>his actions or motives?
>
>why is it that we climbers feel the need to judge each other so harshly
>at times.
>
>as long as we;
>1. dont damage alter the nature of the climb / rock
>2. put others at risk of injury or death.
>3. climb in a manner befitting to the ethics of the crag / region
>
>does it really matter?

Yes it matters, this guy posted a clip of his retarted behaviour(in front of a crowd.. trying to impress them) on Youtube. In my opinion he deserves all the derogatory comments posted on this thread.
>
>
>

IdratherbeclimbingM9
2/12/2009
2:12:29 PM
On 2/12/2009 patto wrote:
>I don't see why I would be worried about his hands because I doubt the
>rope was slipping through them. The rope wasn't fixed, it was a looped
>top and you can here the rope whipping throught the top anchors.
>
You are right. I did not notice that initially, and you can see it too when looking for it.

D. Lodge wrote;
>Also whats with the socks and climbing shoes?!!
Steve C wrote;
>Apart from the socks. I am down with that.

This may be his link with 'old school', apart from name dropping?

mattjr
2/12/2009
2:18:40 PM
On 1/12/2009 SteveC wrote:
>This guy is wearing a beanie whilst soloing for the camera at a populated
>crag. He is violating all of my
>rules. Apart from the socks. I am down with that.

Nup, he's crossed the line..

I'm down with socks and sandals (lends a kinda sophisticated and almost quaint european look)

but not socks and rock shoes.. definite rookie faux pas :D

evanbb
2/12/2009
2:26:00 PM
On 2/12/2009 mattjr wrote:
>but not socks and rock shoes.. definite rookie faux pas :D

Why the fukk not, let's steer this thread totally off into the rough?

Socks with climbing shoes; I can totally see a niche. If the numpty at Paddy Pallin hadn't managed to convice me all those years ago, that 'oh nah man, rock shoes HAVE to be so tight it makes your anus bleed. Otherwise you totally can't climb at all', I would currently be a committed sock wearer. I skin that pointy-out bit of my ankle every farkin time I even think about granite. I think there's even scope for using socks to tighten up old shoes, for hard edging and definitely for jamming.

And gym shoes? Not that I'll climb in a gym ever again, and not without my own shoes, but there's no way known I would wear those filthy science-experiments against my bare skin.
One Day Hero
3/12/2009
5:17:40 PM
Wolfgang did Punks with socks on!
Wendy
3/12/2009
5:21:47 PM
I have a special pair of socks with the toe and heel cut out to wear with my climbing shoes and keep my ankles warm

SteveC
3/12/2009
6:13:34 PM
I also wear socks with my crocs
Wendy
3/12/2009
6:14:35 PM
On 3/12/2009 SteveC wrote:
>I also wear socks with my crocs
>
You mean that's not normal behaviour?
Duncan
4/12/2009
11:16:13 AM
On 1/12/2009 Duncan wrote:
>Someone should have told this arse hat:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwg8peo9hok

Video has been removed by user. I suppose it's good inasmuch as his f---tardery is no longer on display, but it's also bad, inasmuch as his f---tardery is no longer on display.
Wendy
4/12/2009
11:26:37 AM
it's still there, he just reposted it so the link is broken.

ajfclark
4/12/2009
11:42:53 AM
Maybe to get rid of all the negative comments? One user took the time to duplicate them in his channel...

D.Lodge
4/12/2009
4:03:14 PM
CROCS someone remove him from chockstone NOW! I tried to kick a mate out of the gym because he turned up in sheepskin lined crocs, but he was aussie Judo champion so it didn't work ;) hehe

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