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19-Nov-2009 1:45:55 PM
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http://www.dmmclimbing.com/news.asp?ngroup=2&nid=221
and more here:
http://www.rockclimbingcompany.co.uk/Technical-Information/Micro-Nuts.html
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19-Nov-2009 2:27:53 PM
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On 19/11/2009 ajfclark wrote:
>http://www.rockclimbingcompany.co.uk/Technical-Information/Micro-Nuts.html
Eh? Table at the bottom... how come a 2RP with 2mm wire gets 5.5KN and is called "Awesome", but a 3RP with 2mm wire getting 5.5KN is called "High - most likely a mean or max reading"?
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19-Nov-2009 2:29:04 PM
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p.s. Can someone explain to me why some nuts have 2+2 on them? How strong are they? 2KN or 4KN? [edit: Cant remember which nuts, could be the peanuts]
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19-Nov-2009 2:32:48 PM
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On 19/11/2009 ambyeok wrote:
>Eh? Table at the bottom... how come a 2RP with 2mm wire gets 5.5KN and is called "Awesome", but a 3RP with 2mm wire getting 5.5KN is called "High - most likely a mean or max reading"?
Maybe "It tested better than the new, similarly sized DMM product; it must be a statistical problem with the way the RP was tested"?
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19-Nov-2009 2:33:30 PM
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p.p.s. My conclusion about these nuts: "Small soldered nuts are generally stronger than the equivalent size of swaged nut because"... the bottom is thicker. There is no reason you cant make a swaged nut the same size with a thicker bottom right? But you reduce some of the placement options because the wire is thicker.
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19-Nov-2009 10:04:41 PM
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I believe one of the articles also says you will destroy the wire either through breaking the wire at the carabiner or leave some metal behind in the rock. I think it also says above a certain size swaggered nuts are better because the have more rock contact therefore leaving less metal behind in the rock.
So how about the metolius astro nuts:
http://www.ukclimbing.com/gear/review.php?id=1120
http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/astro_nut.html
Not only do you get more of them but there curved design says they seat better when every so slightly flaring.
Anybody used them and actually know?
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20-Nov-2009 7:22:22 AM
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totally opposed. they wobble around in normal placements that you could drop three different size Kong or BD
wires in.
DMM are the only nuts worth using.
I don't eat oranges either.
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20-Nov-2009 10:19:58 AM
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On 19/11/2009 ambyeok wrote:
>p.s. Can someone explain to me why some nuts have 2+2 on them? How strong
>are they? 2KN or 4KN? [edit: Cant remember which nuts, could be the peanuts]
Anybody?
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20-Nov-2009 11:00:39 AM
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Maybe it's the two different orientations?
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20-Nov-2009 11:27:04 AM
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On 20/11/2009 ajfclark wrote:
>Maybe it's the two different orientations?
You might have cracked it AJF, I think I must have been talking about WC Mini Rocks, their website says:
Mini Rocks | Colour Code | Long Edge Width mm | Depth mm | Weight gm | Weight oz | Strength kN | Side Strength kN | Rock on wire 0 | Gold | 9.6 | 4.4 | 6 | 0.21 | 2 | 2 | Rock on wire 0.25 | Blue | 10.6 | 4.9 | 6 | 0.21 | 2 | 2 | Rock on wire 0.5 | Red | 11.6 | 5.6 | 10 | 0.35 | 4 | 2 | Rock on wire 0.75 | Silver | 12.1 | 6.9 | 10 | 0.35 | 4 | 2 |
[edit:] So the "side strength" relates to the chance of the nut pulling through the rock due to its thin profile and taper in that orientation?
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