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Dave MacLeod lowering accident

Climboholic
8-Oct-2012
1:57:16 PM
On 6/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>On 6/10/2012 shortman wrote:
>>On 6/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>>>The point being that anyone can, and eventually will f--- up.
>>
>>Wrong wrong wrong. Doesn't seem to go along with your point at all.
>>
>>Edit: flippin fur burgers CliffD. You have edited your post. I give up.
>
>Dan I just deleted two spaces to make a paragraph as I had intended. I
>almost meet OCD criteria. Just didn't want Andrew to post again about how
>my posts look.... Please don't give up on me yet.

It looks like a few people are starting to notice how you significantly edit or even delete posts. ODH warned you about this weeks ago in the Risk in the Mountains thread, but you are still doing it:

On 9/09/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>You're in a bit of a bad boy mood today, aren't you Miguel?
>
>I wish Cliff would stop posting stuff, then substantially altering it,
>then deleting it. Cliff, if you write something, let it stand. If other
>people have a problem with what you wrote, abuse them.

This along with not putting your real name to your posts, this is bad forum etiquette. But don't worry, I haven't given up on you. I'll just quote everything you say for now on.

shortman
8-Oct-2012
7:42:03 PM
On 8/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>Dear Rinpoche Andrew/Climbaholic. Perhaps you will enlighten me by explaining
>why you felt you needed to repeat what had already been said, and why you
>needed to tell me your intentions. I'll delete my irrelevant posts as I
>see fit. As for not posting my name, well its common practice here my Boddihsatva
>friend. In fact, you removed yours recently, and then reposted it. On-off-on....
>Be consistent Sacred One. Don't let your paranoia get the better of you.
>I liked your recent post about safety. Although I had difficulty seeing
>how it differed substantially to the post you referred to as drivel. And
>surely you of all people can spot the shortcoming there. Why not stick
>to writing your thoughts about climbing? End the Jane Austin.
>
>Oh, and EDIT

Is this the sort of reason you delete them?

Miguel75
8-Oct-2012
9:20:59 PM
On 8/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>....EDIT

Good work acknowledging and adapting to the EDIT Cliff;)

EDIT: it feels better with a colon too. And if you're feeling up to it, give it a crack using a semi-colon... Ooooh mamma does it feel good;)
One Day Hero
8-Oct-2012
10:34:22 PM
On 8/10/2012 shortman wrote:
>I was just saying to CliffD that I
>check it compulsively as soon as I'm scared. Paying attention to climbing
>when I'm scared if the last thing on my mind. It comes miles behind chucking
>a tanty, cursing myself and checking my tie in etc.

That sounds to me like some serious shanker bullshit. Better start working on losing these bad habits if you ever want to be any good at climbing.
>
>pay attention to climbing - isn't that what hard core
>people do?

That's what all the people who want to avoid fracturing both their ankles do..........maybe talk to Egosan about it?
widewetandslippery
8-Oct-2012
11:01:10 PM
dangermouth wack the f---er off the field. What happens off the field should stay off it.

shortman
8-Oct-2012
11:27:40 PM
On 8/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>More or less shortman. Here's another approach.
>
>Andrew/climbaholic wrote -
>It looks like a few people are starting to notice how you significantly
>edit or even delete posts.
>
>You are right. I edited and deleted posts. I was told that editing posts
>was OK, provided an EDIT appear in the post. I recently, deleted two spaces
>in order to compress three statements into a single paragraph without including
>an EDIT, and this was commented on. The change was to delete 2 spaces,
>no text. I hardly think that this warrants attention. As for deleting whole
>posts, I'll delete as I see fit, particularly posts that don't contribute
>in any way to climbing.
>
>Please feel more welcome to respond to my posts related to climbing. Surely
>there's more stirring things happening in your climbing life than pursuing
>this.
>
>I just can't help myself... EDIT

Pursuing what? And what am I right about?

shortman
8-Oct-2012
11:40:07 PM
On 8/10/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>That sounds to me like some serious shanker bullshit. Better start working
>on losing these bad habits if you ever want to be any good at climbing.
>>
Shit, I never thought of that!??

Where do u come up with this stuff?

>>pay attention to climbing - isn't that what hard core
>>people do?
>
>That's what all the people who want to avoid fracturing both their ankles
>do..........maybe talk to Egosan about it?

About being hard core? Or fracturing ankles?

So what your saying is don't get scared.
Don't check your tie in.
If I pay attention to climbing I will be hardcore and not break my ankles.
Talk to Sol.

Thats it?

comablur
9-Oct-2012
4:38:11 AM
Hi Shorty, and all the rest of you Chockers out there, hows it all going. As the sticker on the back of the van said "if this van is rocking, don't laugh your daughter maybe inside!". Hindsight is an amazing tool, shit I would never had broken my ankle if I had known that I was going to break it, maybe I would have stayed at home picking lint out of my navel. I am really glade that Dave had his accident (sorry Dave don't really mean that), I mean it gives everyone that avenue to show just how much they know about this sport that we love, I can hear the chest beating right now. I am not sure how many climbs Dave Macleod has completed/attempted/on sighted/red pointed/pink pointed/top roped/lowered off/abseiled down/bolted/bouldered/looked at/ walked away from and dreamt (dreamed) about, but I would gues that this is one of the first times he was lowered pass the end of the rope. Saying that he should have known better, but shit happens, get over it and move on. For I am sure Dave will be over his injury well before this post is dead.

So long and thanks for listening

shortman
9-Oct-2012
8:34:59 AM
Hey comablur......I thought you guys were back already?

"For I am sure Dave will be over his injury well before this post is dead."

Dunno about that.

comablur
9-Oct-2012
8:39:48 AM
Shorty, 9 more days in Morrocoo them I'll be home. As for Dave I spoke to him the other day, he said he just f---ed up and is all ready "over" it

shortman
9-Oct-2012
9:39:28 AM
Ah huh.

I'm still struggling to see why your swinging the sledgy my way. But swing you will.

Climboholic
9-Oct-2012
10:32:02 AM
On 8/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>Dear Rinpoche Andrew/Climbaholic. Perhaps you will enlighten me by explaining
>why you felt you needed to repeat what had already been said, and why you
>needed to tell me your intentions. I'll delete my irrelevant posts as I
>see fit. As for not posting my name, its common practice here my Boddihsatva
>friend. In fact, you removed yours recently, and then reposted it. On-off-on....
>Be consistent Sacred One. Don't let your paranoia get the better of you.
>I liked your recent post about safety. Although I had difficulty seeing
>how it differed substantially to the post you referred to as drivel. And
>surely you of all people can spot the shortcoming there. Why not stick
>to writing about climbing? End the "Jane Austin".
>
>Oh, and EDIT

Cliff, my favourite thing about you is how you fly off the handle and get all emotional about relatively benign comments. People have been accused of much worse than drivel on Chocky. Didn't your Mum teach you how to deal with bullies? Overreacting just encourages them. This is an internet forum, you might consider developing the extent of your epidermis.

The difference between your post and mine was that you were trying to justify taking 3 kids up Tiptoe ridge using one 50m rope. Whereas, my comment was sensible.

As for editing posts. You end off coming across like this:

Cliff responds to offer to go climbing by calling me a dick

But I jest, I enjoy our banter.

EDIT: I have not removed my name since I created my account in 2005 (note the proper use of the EDIT function. Ie, not changing the content of the original post)

Climboholic
9-Oct-2012
11:11:05 AM
On 9/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>I was offended by your comments Andrew. I was offended also by the crap
>you came up with later about your name, the invite to climb with you, and
>all the rest. I didn't find them "benign" at all. If you feel your behaviour
>is OK because you think its roughly on par for the forum, that's for you
>to sort out.
>
>Why is it that when someone on CS is upset by a poster, then its for them
>to toughen up. Why isn't the response ever to consider how to be more supportive
>and helpful? Part of it is that a good amount of CS would be a very different
>place if there wasn't the personal slimy stuff that goes on here. There's
>a lot of supportive stuff, but there's heaps more neging. Its the first
>forum I've ever written in (so I've learned/experienced a lot) and a few
>guys have been helpful around this (ODH, Dan, and Miguel), but I read forums
>elsewhere and I have to say that CS has been an eye-opener.
>
>I felt quite embarrassed by our earlier posts, that I felt had nothing
>to do with climbing. That's why I deleted my posts. But I see that you've
>reposted them in a way that I have no control over. Is this also to be
>understood as relatively "benign" behaviour? Your right, your behaviour
>is bullying. In response to your question, I've actually found that with
>bullies its best as a first approach to take them on directly.
>
>I thought your post about how to take the 3 kids climbing was reasonable,
>but by that point the thread was dscussing how it could be done with the
>1 rope that the original poster had with him that did not involve tossing
>the end to each climber to tie-on. I still stand by my comments about how
>it could be done with 1 rope, and I have yet to see a reasonable explanation
>for why it would be unworkable. But I think this is just smoke screen.
>
>
>FWIW, I don't really think you are a dick. Just insensitive at times.

Just catching it before it changes

shortman
9-Oct-2012
11:48:34 AM
You gotta stay away from the space cake Cliff D.

Sending big welcoming hugs and kind words to you no matter what you write/change/edit or delete.

Just jot down all the rules for how you would like to be responded to...but....don't change 'em!


Climboholic
9-Oct-2012
12:03:19 PM
On 9/10/2012 davidn wrote:
>Glad to see climboholic and Cliff D are taking up where Damo and I left
>off.
>
>Forum = fun for bored people.

PROCRASTIBATING: To create mindless debates on internet forums to assist procrastination (get your collective minds out of the gutter).

Climboholic
9-Oct-2012
12:04:17 PM
On 9/10/2012 davidn wrote:
>Glad to see climboholic and Cliff D are taking up where Damo and I left
>off.
>
>Forum = fun for bored people. Any information passed on is likely to
>be by accident.
>
>*I edited this, including some of the content, and may delete it later
>just to annoy someone.*

Caught ya ;-)

Climboholic
9-Oct-2012
12:09:35 PM
To be honest I'm just trying to get my post count up to 1000 to get a congratulatory message from M9. It's only the second week of the month and I'm already at 36. Well on track for a PB.

Btw. What was Hex's posting rate per month at his peak? M9?

Climboholic
9-Oct-2012
12:12:16 PM
37!

For the Kevin Smith fans: "36! Does that include me? 37!".

shortman
9-Oct-2012
12:53:33 PM
On 9/10/2012 Climboholic wrote:
>
>PROCRASTIBATING: To create mindless debates on internet forums to assist
>procrastination (get your collective minds out of the gutter).

What a horrible word.

ambyeok
9-Oct-2012
3:23:44 PM
On 9/10/2012 Cliff D wrote:
>Blah blah ... I still stand by my comments about how
>it could be done with 1 rope, and I have yet to see a reasonable explanation
>for why it would be unworkable. Blah blah blah.

Aside from the stupendous torrent of insightful advice from extremely experienced climbers telling you this is a total sh*th!ouse idea sure there is absolutely no reason it isnt workable. Please put this one to bed.

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