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How many time have you hit the ground falling off

climbau
2/03/2012
10:43:32 AM
On 2/03/2012 gfdonc wrote:
>Surely the number of groundfalls attributed to grigris is cause for concern?
I agree, concern for the lazy arsed nature of those that are controlling the device.
Most people think that if they use an "assisted" locking device that they can just relax and enjoy a nap!
The other possibility is that climber A throws n00b climber B a grigri and says "you'll be right yeah, just belay me with this".Unfortunately n00b climber B doesn't speak up and assumes it is as easy as belaying with a sticht plate???????
Pommy
2/03/2012
11:44:36 AM
Do gyms count? If so, then once in 15 years.
I went indoor climbing with a work mate who said he had lead belayed before in Europe. Went to take a short lead fall from above the fourth bolt during the belayer test and ended up flat on my back.
Belay test promptly failed. It was with a Sum too, which would be reasonably hard to screw up with.

Eduardo Slabofvic
2/03/2012
1:04:47 PM
On 2/03/2012 Pommy wrote:
>Do gyms count?

No. Rules are rules, and that would be a floor fall. Just like in the other post where the person landed on the haul bag, that doesn't count either.

I mean to say, if we open that door even just a crack, all the pedants come rolling in like oranges, then the whole place goes to rack and ruin. So, no, sorry, but no.

nmonteith
2/03/2012
1:25:38 PM
Twice. Bizarrely both on camera.

Two bits of gear stripped - including one tricam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8NqgeN8qUs

My foothold snapped on this one. I skimmed the ground and didn't injure myself apart from scratched from the tree. As you can see my belayer ended up higher than me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn69TWwVJ_8

mikllaw
2/03/2012
1:39:54 PM
And have you ever let anyone film you since?

benjenga
2/03/2012
1:50:47 PM
I saw neil first video about 5 years ago and thought it was classic. Neil you took a ground fall off your new route at binary while you were check the glue the other day. Like a cat lucky landing on your feet.

Eduardo Slabofvic
2/03/2012
2:00:09 PM
I know another guy who decked off the first ascent of his new route and ended up in ICU with multiple fractures, but still claimed the first ascent as complete!

I really would like that explained to me.
kieranl
2/03/2012
2:05:12 PM
On 2/03/2012 Eduardo Slabofvic. wrote:
>On 2/03/2012 Pommy wrote:
>
>I mean to say, if we open that door even just a crack, all the pedants
>come rolling in like oranges, then the whole place goes to rack and ruin.
open that door even just a crack...
pedants come rolling in like oranges..
place goes to rack and ruin...

I'm impressed, two substantial cliches and a creative simile in the one sentence.
dicky
2/03/2012
5:49:36 PM
On 1/03/2012 pmonks wrote:
>On 1/03/2012 dicky wrote:
>>on a slightly different subject what is it with people clipping a screwgate
>>through the leg loop and waist rather than through just the belay loop?
>
>Because belay loops aren't
>redundant.




Was waiting for Mr Skinner to be bought up - apart from him any other belay loop fails?

because of this incident wild county did this test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE8lICiDOWQ

so his harness must have been totally shagged to fail seeing as the belay loop is prob. the strongest part of the harness. a better way (imo) of backing up the belay loop is tying in and clipping the rope loop as well as the belay loop, if you dont trust the rope its knitting for you, not putting down any knitters out there, its a skill i dont have so should maybe be a bit more respectful?

on the subject of grooves in carabiners

http://dmmclimbing.com/knowledge/carabiners-and-potential-rope-damage/

speaks for its self
Wendy
2/03/2012
6:04:46 PM
On 2/03/2012 oldtraddad wrote:
>On 1/03/2012 Wendy wrote:
>>Fck, you guys deck out a lot. I must have been doing something right
>>the past 20 odd years. Either that, or being a wuss pays off.
>
>Wendy I do recall you have had some epics. I know the 10m fall you took
>down the first abseil in Empress wasn't a 'lead fall' but it counts as
>a big grounder in my book. "Girl fall means no exageration!"

It was the first abseil in Serendipity, and I don't think in that extended list Eduardo wrote of what counted or not, falling off a cliff on the walk into a canyon made the cut! Maybe we could call it solo abseiling. I didn't even wait to get down to the belay tree. Or to get the rope out or a harness on. I just took off a few metres back up the path and kept on going.


Macciza
2/03/2012
9:47:21 PM
On 2/03/2012 benjenga wrote:
>Neil you took a ground fall off your new route at binary while you were check
>the glue the other day. Like a cat lucky landing on your feet.

Well I don't think it should count if you land on on you feet, unless you then fall-over . . .

shortman
Online Now
23/03/2012
10:30:51 AM
On 1/03/2012 mikllaw wrote:
>Where's my wheelchair dude?
>I've supressed many memories (you get too scared) but I must have at least
>10
>I had 5 grounders off sport routes in a 4 year period, all belay error.
>
>
>One was from the anchors of Butts of Beef! I'd clipped in, sorted the
>rrope, leant back and then halfway down I went into free fall. The only
>thing that stopped me was that I landed on the run of rope between the
>belayer and 1st draw. I slid down that (which slowed me) and hit the belayer
>very hard with both feet, in the wedding tackle area. It was half an hour
>before he could start to shuffle out. I had burns on on hand as I'd obviously
>grabbed something.
>
>One was a result of the gri gri handle being touched by the belayers body
>(he did the strange thing of clipping belay biner through both loops of
>his harness, which means there's a 50% chance of the grigri handle touching
>the body), there was no friction through that but he had deep burns on
>both hands and slowed me. It was a 12m fall onto a rock platform, I broke
>my coccyx and ankle.
>
>I was cleaning Madge McDonald and after I'd removed the first draw, the
>belayer opened the handle of the grigri and I hit the ground hard.
>
>I was on double ropes trying Slope 'n Sleazin and my belayer locked off
>only one of my 2 red ropes when I fell off the top (why not hold both?).
>I hit the back wall of the gully and then bounced down to the ground. For
>his sins he died soon after in NZ.
>
>I pulled a block off a climb in the Wolgan, which knocked out my belayer
>(Glenn Tempest) and I caught myslef on a lower runner . I didn't hit the
>ground but he did as he was belaying lying on a tree branch
>
>Here's a piece of physics for you, catching someone who's fallen 8m is
>the same as falling 8m. Kim fell of the then-unprotected start of Thin
>Time (there are now an extra 2 bolts in the start) and was zooming head
>first towards bad blocks so I caught him. I think we both ended up in hospital.
>
>I fell about 10m into trees and landed on a steep scrubby slope aid soloing
>at Narrowneck without too much damage
>
>I was starting to decend the Golden Streak boulder and fell off the top
>and landed on the ground between all the cannonball sized rocks without
>too much damage
>
>Years earlier I was climbing with the school at Lindfield rocks and was
>setting up a toprope on abseil wall, not being too safe, when a puff on
>wind overbalanced me. I somehow landed on my feet and no-one noticed. I
>walked around the corner and Adrian said 'have you set that rope up already?'
>I said i needed another biner. I was virtually lying on my belly trying
>to clip the bolt next time- seems you can learn after all.
>
>I better stop now, I'm getting scared

Does the name Sarah Westwood ring a bell? She is a lawyer who told me a story about dropping you years ago. She hasn't been climbin since.
mikllaw
23/03/2012
10:43:57 AM
I kknow sarah, but I must have hit my head that time, I can't remember
widewetandslippery
23/03/2012
11:01:28 AM
Ever seen falling down. I had a breakfast is still on right on 10am.
anthonycuskelly
23/03/2012
11:19:21 AM
Just the one: Fell off at the second bolt of Plunging For Mud Bunnies at KP, having got the bolt plate and draw on. I probably had clipping slack out too.

Belayer ended up in the first draw, I was sitting having just brushed the ground and then lifted back up slightly.

Capt_mulch
23/03/2012
11:27:31 AM
On 1/03/2012 pmonks wrote:
>On 1/03/2012 dicky wrote:
>>on a slightly different subject what is it with people clipping a screwgate
>>through the leg loop and waist rather than through just the belay loop?
>
>Because belay loops aren't
>redundant.

and using just belay loops is just damn scarey...

Duang Daunk
13/05/2013
11:02:46 AM
On 1/03/2012 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Anyone else a baby cot escaper? I'm meant to have been found numerous times
>draging mysdelf like a slug after I escaped. I never crawled. That's probably
>my first real bounce from height

This probably explains a few of your posts on this site.

My gear has held and so far I haven't hit the deck, but I nearly died after a martini induced hallucination on Tiptoe Ridge once.
Mike Bee
13/05/2013
11:25:20 AM
Twice for me.
Once was sport climbing at Norton Summit. I was teaching my girlfriend about the concept of a dynamic belay, and I took a jump to give her the experience of catching a bigish fall. Turns out that between a stretchy rope, a touch of slack, being at the bolt above, and her being 15kg lighter meant that I fell about 3m further than when I've taken that fall while climbing with more experienced, heavier belayers. I didn't touch the ground exactly because I was in a sitting position, but I could stand up from where I stopped. Sarah ended up at the first bolt (her feet at head height). It would have been a soft landing, regardless.

The second was a couple of years earlier (Feb 2009). I'd been trad climbing for just less than a year, and had managed a couple of 17s at Araps. I was planning to take a mate up Kaiser, but I didn't check the guide book properly and jumped on a chalked up line in the nearby area.
Turns out the climb was No Future, and that it's pretty damn hard for somone who had led 2 17s ever. Also turns out that it has a habit of spitting out gear as well as leaders. I ripped 4 pieces (two nuts unzipped from the bottom) and decked from 9m up (later measured with a tape measure). Fuched up my left ankle pretty good, and scared the crap out of myself and my family.

I put in a lot more gear these days, and normally double up before cruxes, and I'm quite obsessed with multidirectional pieces down low too.

Superstu
13/05/2013
12:37:11 PM
Once I decked while fiddling in the first nut about 2m off the deck. It was a cold morning, I wasn't warmed up, and I got a flash pump in my right hand while crimping. The fingers uncurled and down I went, bounced and walked away. It was at some forgettable modern bolted crag at Stapylton and somebody went back and put a bolt in at the start, which annoyed me immensely. My belayer for the day has never climbed with me again, oh well.

The other time I decked was on Hyaena when my belayer didn't hold the fall (rope whizzed through his fingers giving him rope burn). I hit the base hard and spent the evening in Horsham hospital trying to remember who I was. I now have a healthy respect for helmets, and wear one more often than I used to.

I took up climbing in 1990. So two decks in two decades. Statistically, if I get a days climbing in each week for the remaining 7 years of this decade, I've got a 1 in 364 chance of decking every day I go out!

IdratherbeclimbingM9
13/05/2013
1:37:25 PM
On 13/05/2013 Superstu wrote:
>I took up climbing in 1990. So two decks in two decades. Statistically,
>if I get a days climbing in each week for the remaining 7 years of this
>decade, I've got a 1 in 364 chance of decking every day I go out!
>
You don't really need statistics to tell you that climbing has a degree of risk every time you go out.
That is the great thing about adventure climbing. ~> It (the risk) is a more likely thing...
;-)

(Different topic; I will come back and edit this post when I track down a link first...)

Post edit;
Found it. Link to Tell us about your groundfall experience* ... a 2004 thread.

(*This saves me retyping my reply again!)

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