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widewetandslippery

11-Feb-2012
8:11:17 PM

What is it? I am talking over the counter.

Panadine, neurofen, neurofen plus (I am a fan of panafen plus the cheap version, voltaren?

Any over the counter ketoprofen?

Still pissed off they took viox off the market. That stuff was good.

Marssan

11-Feb-2012
8:25:34 PM

On 11/02/2012 widewetandslippery wrote:

>
>Still pissed off they took viox off the market. That stuff was good.

As long as you don't mind the stroke or heart attack it came with.

The strongest over the counter combo you're going to get is

Neurofen Plus (2 tabs) 3 - 4 times per day.
Paracetamol 1g - 4 times per day.

Avoid big doses of neurofen if you have kidney problems, gastric ulcers, asthma.

Ice whatever hurts post activity, heat it prior to activity.


davidn

11-Feb-2012
8:58:20 PM

NSAIDs are 'designed' for use when you have an acute injury. They don't relieve pain, other than by reducing the inflammation associated with the painful area. There have been a number of studies undertaken which suggest that they slow muscle repair - enough to turn many off them.

If you want pain relief, use a painkiller... Are you taking a codeine formulation? Digesic? Or just anti-inflammatories with paracetamol?

widewetandslippery

11-Feb-2012
9:06:35 PM

As said I us a iburofen codine mix generally, as u have 2 ask for it I have half a dozen chemists I alternate. Wish I could just get over the counter codine. Codine and vodka and you can do anything. Viox risks were well worth it for how well it worked.


davidn

11-Feb-2012
9:33:07 PM

You can't get over the counter codeine? Or you can't get over the counter 30mg codeine (panadeine forte strength)?

It's commonly sold in formulations up to ~15mg per tablet + paracetamol, at least around here...

Anyhow, like I said if your injury isnt new your ibuprofen use may not be doing you any favours, but it's your body!

Marssan

11-Feb-2012
10:15:08 PM

On 11/02/2012 Useful wrote:

>they don't relieve pain, other than by reducing the inflammation associated with the
>painful area.
>

No.

Apart from the purely anti-inflammatory effects of NSAIDs they also decrease the production of prostaglandins that sensitise nerve endings, (sensitisation makes them fire at lower thresholds thus increasing painful nerve transmission) therefore NSAIDs are analgesic drugs as well as anti-inflammatory.

widewetandslippery

11-Feb-2012
10:57:12 PM

My fishing mate uses tumeric tea, but he eats fruit. I don't have much time for health opinions from people who eat fruit, and has ok results but he freely admits It could be a psycho thing as tramadol hasn't worked btw anyone used tramadol, I've got some for the dogs prostate and there a couple that could go missing......


davidn

12-Feb-2012
6:44:02 AM

Ok I'll rephrase - they have a minor effect on pain and there's a reason they are recommended for 'mild to moderate' pain. Not least being all the side-effects, including increased bleeding.

Perhaps you just need to actually rest your ankle WWS?


IdratherbeclimbingM9

12-Feb-2012
1:25:40 PM

Yeah, rest your ankle ww&s.
I am an old fart and know these things will come back to bite you otherwise!
~> besides, a real hard man puts up with the pain and extricates himself from the situation...

On 11/02/2012 widewetandslippery wrote:
> I've got some for the dogs prostate and there a couple that could go missing......

You'd do that to your mate?
~> My mate reckons shame on you climbing-brother!
☺

Btw I eat fruit but he generally only sniffs at it. Heh, heh, heh.

simone

12-Feb-2012
1:55:33 PM

On 12/02/2012 Useful wrote:
>Ok I'll rephrase - they have a minor effect on pain and there's a reason
>they are recommended for 'mild to moderate' pain. Not least being all
>the side-effects, including increased bleeding.
>
Bullshit.
What is mild to someone is moderate (or worse) to someone else.
Bleeding? Are you female?

citationx

12-Feb-2012
4:12:33 PM

My favourite NSAID is now voltaren. Depending on which injury I'm suffering from it can remove all pain where nurofen doesn't. I don't understand it, but I know it works often when nurofen doesn't and that's all i need to know.
(the stronger tablets)


Eduardo Slabofvic

12-Feb-2012
4:26:02 PM

The best way forward is to establish a close friendship with a dodgy GP. 400mg ibuprofins are great, but 5mg endones are much better

widewetandslippery

12-Feb-2012
6:23:18 PM

On 12/02/2012 Useful wrote:
>Ok I'll rephrase - they have a minor effect on pain and there's a reason
>they are recommended for 'mild to moderate' pain. Not least being all
>the side-effects, including increased bleeding.
>
>Perhaps you just need to actually rest your ankle WWS?

I did. But the christmas test match only went for 2 days. I have only walked about 15km today crag searching. And I suppose walking mary and claude total 5km. I carried my 30 box of cans home in shoes not thongs. By the way its ankles, plural.

M9 claude will not go without.

Citationx I will have another go with voltanen plus, if it works for andrew gazes back it must be good.

Hear you eduardo but I,m so far not pinching tremadol or getting endone (isn't a gp who gives you endone a good one rather than dodgy?) As I want to do shit. I'd hillbilly heroin and bong on to my hearts content otherwise.

The Gymp

12-Feb-2012
7:20:35 PM

I've had my share of inflammation. For your general run of the mill inflammation, Codeine plus Ibuprofen. Just pain - panadeine extra (15mg codeine plus 500 g paracetamol). But the last 2 years I've been on and off 15mg Mobic (meloxicam). One a day. Work really well. For best results, try cortisone. I had one last may and went from pain to train in 48 hours. Until I twinged it again 6 weeks later. Now I've just had my third cortisone shot in 9 months in the sheath of my left Achilles tendon last Thursday. I think it's time to rehab properly and rebuild properly before the next attempt. Take the advice of Useful and M9.
My name's not The Gymp for nothing.

widewetandslippery

12-Feb-2012
8:24:30 PM

Gymp do you have a bulging lump on your tendon has friction massage on the tendon worked?


shortman

12-Feb-2012
8:37:09 PM

Where you are goin wrong wws is restricting your options. Broaden beyond the counter.


SteveC

12-Feb-2012
10:02:33 PM

On 11/02/2012 widewetandslippery wrote:
as u have 2 ask for it I have half a dozen chemists I alternate.

Sounds familiar to my visits to chemists-

Me: "Umm hi, so I have some sort of mumble mumble recurring pain in my something something old head ache, I think something called Mersyndol is what I need........"
Cute Nerdy Pharmacy chic: "Sure so have you taken codeine and doxylamine before?
Me: "Umm just once or twice when I dislocated my headache last year, Why!!???
Hot Pharmacy Chic with Lesbian Librarian Glasses: "Would you like the cheaper Chemist's Own brand?
Me: "What No! Why? Yes! What are you suggesting??? 48 tablets please!"
S&M Chemist Mistress: "Is there anything else I can help you with?"
Me: "Just some Metamucil please"

widewetandslippery

12-Feb-2012
10:10:28 PM

lol steve. I have 5 prolapsed disc in my lumber sacrum area and bearing down on codine without metamucil during a sciatic attack is murder.


Eduardo Slabofvic

13-Feb-2012
9:43:27 AM

Bugger the prolasped disks, tell me more about the hot gothic chemist with Buddy Holly glasses. Is she wear stockings or latex?

The Gymp

13-Feb-2012
5:43:04 PM

No major lump. A very small bump and minor thickening of the tendon but according to scans it looks pretty good. Just for some reason I have inflammation of the sheath. Probably due to structural problems relating to smashing up that ankle 16 years ago (ligaments only) and now it flops around a bit. It also might have to do with having reached 86kg a while ago on legs that make Miss Prissy look like Tom Platz.

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