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Nick Kaz memorial thread #2

kaz86

5-Jan-2009
11:15:51 PM

On 5/01/2009 for fox sake wrote:
>Thats a great idea (by both you and Neil). Hopefully NP agree to it
>
>Chris

Deff Neils idea im just getting behind it !
im looking forward to meeting those that knew Nick. i bet u have some great stories about him.

J.C.

6-Jan-2009
1:27:51 AM

On 5/01/2009 kaz86 wrote:
>over the last 24hrs i have come to see just how well known and liked nick
>was in the climbing community. it is a measure of his character and charisma
>to see that soo many will miss him.
>i hope this brings alot of other climbers closer and that u continue to
>tell tales of his deeds be it climbing his 1st 22 or one of the many nights
>partying hard.
>we are thinking about the park bench idea and are going to approach the
>Nat park about building one over the look out or something like that.

I don't recall Nick's first 22, but I do recall that the first time we shared a rope was when he belayed me up my first 22 back sometime in 04? We organised to meet at Mt Kuringai station via CragX forums and headed down to Faraway Wall for the arvo, from the get go he was so easy to get along with and his energy was infectious.

He kept raving to me in the last few weeks about an amazing photogenic thin steep 26 rp seam at the Zawn that he wanted to try & we were going to get some photos on it this week, but he never mentioned the route name. If anyone happens to know which route this would be route I'd love to find out?

for fox sake

6-Jan-2009
4:33:31 AM

The slimeballs at the Daily Telegraph have now put up the truth on what happend, and tried top make it out it's their news when all they have done is copy/paste the AAR report.

Newspapers really piss me off

rod

6-Jan-2009
4:56:39 AM

my condolences to you and the family kaz86, his was an honourable way to go.

pete_w

6-Jan-2009
7:35:00 AM

Josh,

It might have been Technocrat. Nick was mad-keen for this line every time we went out there.

TonyB

6-Jan-2009
9:14:09 AM

My sincere condolences to Andrew, family and friends.

I'm sure we are all keen to learn from this and to prevent anything like this happening again. I cannot understand how the nut on a new dyna bolt could possibly come loose ... is there any information on this please ?

One report said that the belayer was injured. Is this correct and how did this happen ?


langles

6-Jan-2009
9:58:58 AM

Likewise, my sincere condolences to Nick's family and friends.

>I'm sure we are all keen to learn from this and to prevent anything like
>this happening again.

The AAR report stated that one rope was cut by a sharp edge. I assume 2 ropes were used to gain access to the bottom of the crag via the Mirrorball raps. Presumably the second rope had been coiled and was being carried by the second?


rodw

6-Jan-2009
10:06:26 AM

I dont think you can assume anything..why not wait for full report until people start making guesses etc...don't forget the media are watching and will misquote things to get a head line...

...if you must discuss it maybe move it to safer cliffs forum?

Keep this thread about talkin about Nick and celebrating his life rather than picking over the details of his unfortunate death.


nmonteith

6-Jan-2009
10:08:12 AM

On 6/01/2009 langles wrote:
> I assume
>2 ropes were used to gain access to the bottom of the crag via the Mirrorball
>raps. Presumably the second rope had been coiled and was being carried
>by the second?

I wouldn't assume that. In the past I have either fixed a 100m static (or used Josh's!) for that rap or shared a rap rope with another climbing party.

deadpoint

6-Jan-2009
10:44:53 AM

Condolences to Nick's family and friends, most of us never met Nick face to face, but
his time spent on Chockstone makes us all friends. Climb on Kaz.


BigMike

6-Jan-2009
11:02:30 AM

On 6/01/2009 for fox sake wrote:
>
>The slimeballs at the Daily Telegraph have now put up the truth on what
>happend, and tried top make it out it's their news when all they have done
>is copy/paste the AAR report.
>

Not sure if the report has changed, but I've just looked and it carries an attribution:

"A SHARP V-shaped notch of ironstone was to blame for cutting the rope of a man who
fell to his death in the Blue Mountains, fellow climbers claimed yesterday.

Other adventurers in the area at the time told the Australian Accident Register website
..."

mikepatt

6-Jan-2009
11:07:24 AM

I'd just like to add my condolences to Nick's family. I met Nick at the last climbing festival after a few exchanges on chockstone and cragx. We were both volunteering and spent a cold hour or so standing outside a door as 'security'. Naturally we cahtted about climbing and the trips we wanted to do. Nick was keen on a trip to Federation Peak to climb a grade 24 roof crack. I hope he gets there.
I am deeply saddened by Nick's death. He have lost a young enthusiastic character who will leave a (fittingly) huge whole in many peoples' lives.

kaz86

6-Jan-2009
11:22:49 AM

Hi mike.
iv seen nick in a shirt that was from an expo.
im familiar with the talk of federation peak. he wouldnt shut up about it. im not sure if he made it or not but im sure it was on the plans. He was very much like that. always talking about his next rip or some other route, he would always talk about grades and holds and equipment that none of us knew but would keep on chatting about it like he was a kid that had just seen fireworks for the first time. we all got lectures on it but seriously it was like another language, we would listen and smile because it was funny to see a big shaggy face all excited about rocks of all things, many times he would keep us entertained by demonstrating how he would have looked on a rock face .. still makes me smile.
we all miss him soo much

deadpoint

6-Jan-2009
11:30:13 AM

I have just poked around a bit on the teles web site and found that when you click on
the link from this forum to the article it places a referer url of www.chockstone.com with
the forum from where the link has placed. This means they can easily track from where
the people visiting their news site came from. Lucus's posting of a link to the AAR made
it simple to scrape up some more news.

Insidious isn't it? plus the use of google syndication and google adsense makes them
able to tailor those ads on the right hand side. I would not be surprised of the advertisers
pay per page view fee plus a click through fee as well. It also allows them to tailor the
style of news they report vs the amount of page views and click through's the receive. ie
not so interesting news won't receive any effort, even more insidious is the possibility
that newspapers could make postings to forums and blogs to put a start the whole
process in the first place.

Several of the readers comments could to be fabricated, check the some of names in a
google search and see what you find. In general they appear to be incite comment to
sucker more page views and click through's. Nasty business indeed.

I have drawn their attention to this but my comments have been deemed unsuitable for
publishing...just out of interest how many people made reader comments on the article?
11 have so far been deemed suitable??


river_lucy

6-Jan-2009
11:49:37 AM

This is all so sad - again, my sympathy to Nick's family and to his climbing partner that day - I hope you are all coping as well as you can under the circumstances.

I met Nick when I first came to Australia and didn't know too many people & he was really friendly & helpful (let me & Matt crash at his place - which included a massive (& quite heated) discussion about trad climbs :) as I remember). I didn't know him too well either, but his enthusiasm for climbing and wry sense of humour (I remember the "fat" comments too) made him unforgettable.

wombby

6-Jan-2009
2:13:42 PM

Kaz, I don't know you and didn't know Nick, but as a fellow climber I would like to express my sincerest condolences and absolute sorrow at this tragedy.

If you and your family are agreeable, I for one would be interested in reading a eulogy for Nick at some point.

All the very best karma to you and your family.

looniest_leon

6-Jan-2009
5:41:19 PM

My thoughts are with you Nick. Even though I hadn't climbed with you since Newcastle I had hoped to see you again, fighting your way up something with typical enthusiasm. We have lost a special one.

wingyingau

6-Jan-2009
9:14:25 PM

On 5/01/2009 kaz86 wrote:
>over the last 24hrs i have come to see just how well known and liked nick
>was in the climbing community. it is a measure of his character and charisma
>to see that soo many will miss him.
>i hope this brings alot of other climbers closer and that u continue to
>tell tales of his deeds be it climbing his 1st 22 or one of the many nights
>partying hard.
>
I don't remember his 1st 22 but I do remember how his eyes lit up as he talked about working some 22 five years ago, when I first met him.

I also remember him launching me on Killer Boas in Nowra when he came off the 2nd bolt. I joked with him that he was useless and a 4ft 11 little girl would put the drawers on for him. He slapped me on my back and told me to put some weight on my fat arse.

Just before Xmas when we were down at Porters, he told me his girlfriend (Kate) would kick my arse and we joked about how I took the prize for having the worst taste in men.

I'm going to miss the banter, big boy!!!!! Save your fat arse jokes until I see you next time, by then I should have one and you'll have to put the drawers on for me.

Jess

for fox sake

6-Jan-2009
10:54:22 PM

He kept calling me a dwarf and i'd get arsey about it!

Last time i climbed with Nick it was at St Peters gym, he got to the top of one of the overhangs (cruised it as usual) looked down at me, smiled and said "You ready?" pulled out enough slack, didnt bother clipping the anchors and jumped, i took off like a cheap chinese rocket! and the peanut gallery looked in amazement.

Just looked and there's over 12000 hits on this thread, knowing Nick he'd have said "What the f--- is everyone worrying about, either get drinking or get climbing"

I'm gonna do both !!!! (not at the same time of course)

kaz86

7-Jan-2009
12:17:51 PM

Just a quick update.
at this time nicks farewell/funeral will be early next week.
anyone who is interested in detials Just PM me and like in earlier posts i will inform you as soon as i know the details myself.

in the mean time.
Anyone who has already decided to make the treck up to say goodbye
could you please make sure that u have already Private Messaged me.
A good friend of ours in the council has decided to arrange
~ FREE ACCOMMODATION ~ for those wishing to stay and share a drink or 2.
i will pass on the details.

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