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Nick Kaz memorial thread #2

anthonyk
4/01/2009
10:53:11 PM
i didn't have a lot of contact with nick but he was a really enthusiastic and friendly guy, he was always happy to answer questions i had about places & wanted to know how it went afterwards. very sad to hear
daave
4/01/2009
10:55:38 PM
On 4/01/2009 onsight wrote:

>No, it is not correct. He was NOT on Bunny Bucket Buttress when the accident
>occurred, nor was it a carrot bolt that failed. They were climbing a relatively
>recently bolted varient to the upper pitches of BBB -- which had dyna-bolts
>with fixed hangers.

Would this have been the one that Josh Caple and I saw starting from the right hand edge of the 6th pitch ledge of BBB? Does anyone know about this route?

My condolences to Family and Friends. I could not possibly imagine what they are going through right now.

Edit: Just to add, It would seem that the same reporter tried to get some info out of CragX goers without stating who he was http://bb.bbboy.net/cragx-viewthread?forum=2&thread=378
J.C.
4/01/2009
11:01:06 PM
Faretheewell brother Kazman! A true character and an absolutely top bloke... wherever you are now, crank on & party hard bud.


Edit: Dave, yes that's the one.
richardo
4/01/2009
11:07:23 PM
>
>My condolences to Family and Friends. I could not possibly imagine what
>they are going through right now.

Ditto the above 1000 times.

and i know it is small fry to the above but those f---in reporters deserve a million letters of complaint.
Doesn't the abc run a media complaint television program in OZ? Why not sent them in there?
onsight
4/01/2009
11:14:01 PM
On 4/01/2009 daave wrote:
>On 4/01/2009 onsight wrote:
>
>>No, it is not correct. He was NOT on Bunny Bucket Buttress when the accident
>>occurred, nor was it a carrot bolt that failed. They were climbing a
>relatively
>>recently bolted varient to the upper pitches of BBB -- which had dyna-bolts
>>with fixed hangers.
>
>Would this have been the one that Josh Caple and I saw starting from the
>right hand edge of the 6th pitch ledge of BBB? Does anyone know about this
>route?

Yes, that would be it. I saw your recent query about that and I'm also interested to learn more. I haven't been sent any info for the guidebook and can't see anything on ACA or The Crag.
kaz86
4/01/2009
11:16:24 PM
I can confirm it was my brother nicholas kaczorowski. i cannot confirm how or what has happened until the inquest into his death has been finished. words cannot express how devastated we are as a family.

If you wish to get in touch please email me or send me a message.
orange
4/01/2009
11:27:30 PM
i am frankly revolted by this mans sordid attempt at gathering information
for fox sake
5/01/2009
12:25:44 AM
Just heard off the boys what happend, such a shame. Great guy.

Like many of us who had the pleasure of tying in with nick, it was great knowing him. Luckily i have video footage of us climbing together, he spent 45 mins in a hanging belay, in pain just so we could make a film. Not once did he complain or ask us to hurry up, which showed a measure of the man.

So long my friend.

One crowded hour is worth an age without a life.

DaCrux
5/01/2009
12:51:08 AM
can this thread be locked so that people can't publish articles such as this garbage:
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24872356-5006009,00.html

My sincere condolences to Nick's family and friends.
surfinclimb
5/01/2009
7:50:02 AM
All I can say is that their is the usual shite in the septic tank, Their is the really bad stuff in the bottom and then their is YOU. The lowest sickest peice of shite that I have ever had the displesure of coming across. May your stinking corpse rot in an unmarked grave for the rest of eternity.
We are talking about the death of a human being here and all you can think about is getting a scoop. You are pathetic.

rodw
5/01/2009
8:24:42 AM
They have a job but there are limits, Ive written to media watch about My Bibbys actions whic I think are very unethical...what I sent is below which was sent to mediawatch@your.abc.net.au.

Hi,

I have an issue about an unethical news paper reporter you might be interested in. On the 2nd January and climber fell in the Blue Mountains and died. A news paper reporter, Paul Bibby, went on to forums trying to get the a news of the climbers before his famliy knew without telling anybody he was a reporter...

Examples here on chockstone aka Puff,
http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=5&MessageID=4311&Replies=30#newpost

Sturat Mclean did the right thing earlier and indentified himself, aka reporter
http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=5&MessageID=4304&Replies=9#newpost

Paul Bibby was at it again on my website aka Bibb
http://bb.bbboy.net/cragx-viewthread?forum=2&thread=378

Once I saw it I locked the thread and stated that the forum was no place for media to use as quotes but yseterday I noticed my quotes on the same thread were used in daily telegraph article.

Paul Bibby
January 4, 2009
at the end he quotes,
"It is a sad day when we lose one of our own, be they personal friends, family or mere
acquaintances," one climber said.

Another said: "Terrible news. Thoughts go out to family and friends, whoever they are."

Considering both were my statements on a thread, stating this forum shouldnt be used for the media, I find it MR Bibby behaviour unethical.

Nick was a great guy who will be missed and should not be used by unethical reporters as a way to meet a deadline.

Regards

Rod Wills
admin@cragx.org

Hawkman
5/01/2009
9:01:49 AM
What a joke that latest one from the telegraph is. They could not even get the first ascent details correct.

J.C.
5/01/2009
9:26:16 AM
Shocking!
I posted a comment but will be surprised if they post it so...

'A speculative article that is chocked full of factual errors, hearsay and sensationalism.
And no, rock climbing should not be regulated by a government body, that is ridiculous.
The old adage of writing about what you know... stick to it!'

tnd
5/01/2009
9:32:30 AM
I am still having trouble believing that I'll never again bump into Nick at the crag or the gym, or share a beer and rap about motorbikes, climbing, whatever. He had such a cheerful, sunny disposition.

Nick, you will never be forgotten by those who were lucky enough to know you. To Nick's family, in your darkest hour I hope you can take some strength from the feelings of his friends.

tnd
5/01/2009
9:34:57 AM
On 5/01/2009 Josh Caple wrote:
>Shocking!
>I posted a comment but will be surprised if they post it so...
>
>'A speculative article that is chocked full of factual errors, hearsay
>and sensationalism.
>And no, rock climbing should not be regulated by a government body, that
>is ridiculous.
>The old adage of writing about what you know... stick to it!'

They ripped the topo off the SRC website, which is copyright. The topos are provided by Mikl and the SRC for people to download and use, not to republish!
gfdonc
5/01/2009
9:58:54 AM
I also express my condolences to his friends and relatives. I didn't know Nick, so perhaps my sentiments count less than those posted earlier, but heartfelt all the same.

- Steve
burger
5/01/2009
10:01:04 AM
Dang, tough news about Nick, he will be greatly missed by many I think. For me and I'm sure this is the same for many other climbers, Nick was one of those guys that we'd see at the crag from time to time. He was always happy and super friendly and every time he'd arrive at the crag you knew the day was gonna end out being a great social fun day.

He'd make the crag chuckle when he'd yell "TAKE, ahh I'm too fat to be climbing something this steep." Half the time I would be sitting on a bolt thinking the same thing.

My heart goes out to his family and close friends. You will be missed.

Nick and Jen.



for fox sake
5/01/2009
10:13:17 AM

Papers love scandal, and even more speculation, thats where they get their kicks.

I've just emailed the said Mr Bibby and suggested he formally apologise on here for his actions. I know it won't affect what he's done but maybe it'll show a little bit of remorse for his actions

I won't be holding my breath though

phil_nev
5/01/2009
10:19:47 AM
Really sad news. Although I Only met Nick a couple of times, a tradgedy like this still hits really close to home... My deepest condolences to all Nicks friends and family.

RIP Kaz.
Onsight
5/01/2009
11:01:28 AM
On 5/01/2009 DaCrux wrote:
>can this thread be locked so that people can't publish articles such as
>this garbage:
>http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,27574,24872356-5006009,00.html

That article is a disgrace, full of misinformation and the proposerous proposal to regulate climbing is a disgusting effort to sensationalise this very sad accident.

At the end of the article they acknowledge that the climbers were probably not on the Bunny Bucket Buttress, even so, they post the topo of Bunny Bucket Buttress and talk about that route as if the accident occurred on that route.

Let me repeat for any journalists out there reading this thread: it is a fact that the climbers were NOT on Bunny Bucket Buttress when the accident occurred. This information comes to me first hand. Maybe spend you time getting your facts straight rather than proposing regulation of something you clearly know nothing about.

>can this thread be locked
How would that help? The journalist has got there information from elsewhere. Even the police don't seem to be able to tell the media all the facts about the accident.


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