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Own a Meteor Helmet?? be afraid
psd
26/08/2008
9:11:22 AM
Dragging up a really old thread here.

Does anyone have any views as to whether the latest version of the meteor helmet has cast off its tendency to spontaneously implode? Is there much of a difference between the '05 model and the current model?
Sally
26/08/2008
10:00:50 AM
I have a new one and it is completely different
It has no exposed poly, and sits on the head much lower.
I was going to put a pic of my pretty green one in use, but due to pic's being a bit complicated, this
will have to do
http://en.petzl.com/petzl/SportProduits?Produit=603


Sonic
27/08/2008
3:27:32 PM
I also just bought a new meteor III and I think it is fantastic compared to the old ones. It is completely encased as Sally says and the weight of the thing is minimal and therefore very comfortable. I reckon it is a dramatic improvement.
psd
27/08/2008
5:30:58 PM
Thanks for the responses guys - looking for something a little lighter than my ecrin roc for sport but I wanted to make sure these aren't so light as to be useless.
Paul
27/08/2008
6:04:19 PM
I'll be sticking with my petzl ecrin roc, My choice is solidness with proven effectiveness over lightness. Is it really worth using an inferior helmet for the sake of saving 200g?

kerroxapithecus
27/08/2008
6:16:47 PM
I sense litigation coming on. Get um!
psd
27/08/2008
8:27:03 PM
On 27/08/2008 Paul wrote:
>I'll be sticking with my petzl ecrin roc, My choice is solidness with
>proven effectiveness over lightness. Is it really worth using an inferior
>helmet for the sake of saving 200g?

Hi Paul - this worries me too but is it really inferior or just meant for a different purpose?

It seems to me that (theoretically at least) the meteor would be better for bashing your head in a fall due to the foam shock absorption and the better side and back coverage whereas the ecrin is more aimed at falling objects.

Logically I'm thinking of bike helmets and lots of other sport helmets where the issue is bashing your head on something hard rather than falling rock - the designers in those sports have all chosen a meteor design not an ecrin roc design. Surely this is persuasive?

I'm not looking to replace the ecrin roc entirely just for climbing where rock fall isn't an issue.
Sally
28/08/2008
7:29:58 AM
All the helmets are rated for Maximum impact protection.
Ecrin Roc is most durable and Heaviest
Elios and altios are thinner and lighter. Some guiding companies this way use them for clients so still
fairly durable.
Meteor is lightest but least durable. Don't throw your pack around when it is in it( hand luggage), don't sit
on it at lunch and you'll be fine.
I have used all three types . I still use the Elios for ice as things get roughed around a bit on those trips. I
need a lighter one as my neck hurts when I wear Ecrin Roc all day, and I'd rather not be taking it off.
climb2011
2/05/2011
10:30:08 PM
I know this post is from 2005 so it's *pretty* old, but nontheless I wanted to give my opinion about it.

I'm sorry for your mum (guess she has already recovered from her injuries) but I wouldn't say that the Petzl Meteor (even the one from 2005, in 2011 we are now at the Meteor III+) is a crap helmet.

The Meteor is CE and UIAA approved. The lab tests include different 5kg blunt weight impacts plus 3kg sharp tip impacts.

So I would say that the Meteor actually saved her from something much worse. You said it was a "funny angled ledge" ... I mean, even without having a lab and just by hitting my Meteor with bare hands, I would say the impact to break it (even if its outer shell is made of polystyrene) is quite important.

Greets.

mattjr
3/05/2011
12:03:41 AM
Not sure Lee will get your message mate he last logged in 28/06/2006!!

(edit: perhaps he will as Lee C ;D)
pharmamatt
3/05/2011
7:55:42 AM
On 2/05/2011 climb2011 wrote:
>I know this post is from 2005 so it's *pretty* old, but nontheless I wanted
>to give my opinion about it.
>
>I'm sorry for your mum (guess she has already recovered from her injuries)
>but I wouldn't say that the Petzl Meteor (even the one from 2005, in 2011
>we are now at the Meteor III+) is a crap helmet.
>
>The Meteor is CE and UIAA approved. The lab tests include different 5kg
>blunt weight impacts plus 3kg sharp tip impacts.
>
>So I would say that the Meteor actually saved her from something much
>worse. You said it was a "funny angled ledge" ... I mean, even without
>having a lab and just by hitting my Meteor with bare hands, I would say
>the impact to break it (even if its outer shell is made of polystyrene)
>is quite important.
>
>Greets.

I don't think the issue is whether she was wearing a helmet or not wearing one, but had she been wearing say a BD half dome or Petzl ecrin roc would she'd have the laceration to the head.
Lee C
3/05/2011
7:58:30 AM
I think you missed the point as to what I thought was the specific limitation with this helmet. Indeed it conforms to the standards but no other helmet would fall off your head after any of the standard penetration or blunt impact tests as did this.This happened because the straps at the back of the helmet only insert into polystyrene so are easily dislodged. So it's good for initial impact but not good if that initial impact is followed by a swing across sharp ironstone. Maybe I didn't make that clear in the first post, either way Petzl noted this as one of the most important issues to address with their new design.
climb2011
16/05/2011
8:14:04 PM
Ok, so the rock cut off the straps or something like that? Or ripped them away from the rest of the helmet?

What version of the Meteor was she wearing at that time?

I guess this has already been improved, in fact like someone else said, the new Meteors have a larger "neck-side"/lower-head protection ... I guess that's one of the reasons...

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