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Tito Traversa Killed in a Fall
11:57:45 AM
On 27/08/2013 Sabu wrote:
>Ok so by extension what stops authorities charging a retailer or manufacturer
>when a person ties into a rope incorrectly or incorrectly places a cam
>and hurts themselves? It seems pretty shady territory to me.
Pretty much nothing if someone gets a bee in their bonnet. That's why every cam and harness comes with pages of warnings and instructions, to try to mitigate the risk of being sued/charged.
12:12:52 PM
The crucial point here is that a 12-year-old kid is dead, possibly because someone miss-assembled some crucial life-safety equipment. Tito was a very good climber but he wasn't an adult, not even close to being one.
Consider if a 12-year-old bought a bike and rode it out of the shop and got killed by a truck at the first cross-road because the front-wheel fell off.
If it was in Australia I would expect that the coroner would want to call evidence from the manufacturer and retailer and any supervisory adults who were present. It's possible that could lead to the coroner recommending charges.

8:01:15 PM
A similar accident cause:
1:52:46 PM
On 21/05/2015 ajfclark wrote:
>Tito Claudio Traversa (April 22, 2001 – July 5, 2013) was an Italian climber[1]
>who died of complications from a climbing accident in which he fell from
>a 50 feet (15 m) groundfall on July 5, 2013 at the age of 12.[2][3][4]
>An investigation by French officials revealed that his quickdraws were
>assembled incorrectly, with the carabiners threaded only though the rubber
>keeper, and not through the full-strength sewn loop at the ends of the
>quickdraws that are designed to support the climber's weight. According
>to public prosecutor Raffaele Guariniello, eight out of ten of Traversa’s
>quickdraws were assembled this way. Five people have been charged with
>manslaughter in the case. Among those charged is the owner of the company
>that produced the rubber keepers without instructions, as well as the owner
>of the gear shop that sold the keepers. The manager of the club that organized
>the climbing trip, as well as two of the instructors who were at the climbing
>site, have also been charged for failing to check the safety of the equipment.[5]

Thanks for that Andrew - amazing that Wikipedia has so much info for once.

Interesting that the instructors are being charged - especially since the manufacturer apparently hasn't provided them adequate information. Scary stuff... though losing a life is never to be taken lightly.

Considering how much info was already out there about these things breaking - a recall should have been announced IMO.

6:26:01 AM

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