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Arapiles or Grampians in Winter?
11:16:38 PM
Hi, due to more or less unfortunate bad trip and life planning I'll arrive in Australia mid June. I know this is winter ;) are there still enough climbers around or better is it still worth to go there solo and do you all think it's possible to find climbing partners easily by then?
I'll come with rope and draws but no trad rack, and no extensive trad experience (by then a few trad routes in Europe probably).

Thanks for your help! Need to figure out if it makes sense to move to climbing or more sense to do a Winter season or go up north and miss climbing for a while (that would be the least favourlable though.. ;)

Cheers, Moni
1:54:37 AM
best time of year

8:56:39 AM
There will be fewer opportunities to find climbing partners in winter, as there are fewer travelling climbers. But many of us still climb extensively in winter. I prefer winter to summer climbing, actually.

Araps can great on sunny winters days, or it can be unpleasantly cold and wet. It depends on the weather.

Climbing in the Blue Mountains is a bit more predictably good in winter, although windy days can make it unpleasantly cold for climbing. Nowra isn't far away from Sydney and also tends to be good in winter. Both have extensive sport options.

Frog Buttress in southern Queensland would also be a great pick for winter, although that doesn't sound like your type of climbing (hardish trad, mostly cracks).
3:00:58 PM
The blue mountains is so not a winter crag. It's cold windy & damp for the most part. Nowra is a bazzillion times better in winter.

E. Wells
5:47:21 PM
Its just opinion. I wait all year for winter in Blue Mountains! Any crag that is a summer crag is also a winter crag before 1pm (boronia , logan brae etc) and completely sheltered from Westerlies. Then youve got the whole east / north side in a teeshirt (or shirtless) on a winter morning whether it be a few minutes walk at Victoria Falls / Mt York exhibition wall , or a big adventurous day at Perrys Lookdown , Serendipitous Walls , Hanging Rock , Thor Head , then youve got Bowens Creek , Half of Bell ....and these are just the places (maybe with the exception of Bell) where cold temps are mandatory! If the westerlies arent blowing then there is just about every other classic crag after midday in Blackheath. We get the biggest high pressure systems through winter and the likelyhood of dry is higher. Just gotta get out of that wind! If you havent been basking in the sun at loganbrae on an otherwise bitterly cold windy morning its the best , very powerful. We also have the best friction , very powerful friction.

E. Wells
5:51:46 PM
And then Coal Mine Cliffs , Coke Ovens ...oh so many places that require 0-10 degrees as an ideal temp!
8:08:14 PM
I'd consider Nowra (average 14C in winter, powerful short sport) and the nearby Point Perpendicular (spectacular trad and sport seacliff).
Wolgan Valley (lower than the Blue Mountains, so warmer ) for single and multi pitch trad and a bit of sport
QLD- warmer
Frog Buttress- cool trad
SE QLD, many sport and trad crags

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