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Crag & Route Beta

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Grampians Fires 2014 - More roads open
jdb
24/01/2014
1:43:18 PM
Keiran, do you think the bolts will need replacing on the Wall of Fools?
kieranl
24/01/2014
1:58:09 PM
On 24/01/2014 jdb wrote:
>Keiran, do you think the bolts will need replacing on the Wall of Fools?
I'd be surprised. I'm not aware of that being necessary at other cliffs after fires, except where the bolts were rubbish to start with. That said, I'm no engineer.

Snacks
24/01/2014
4:03:00 PM
On 24/01/2014 kieranl wrote:
>On 24/01/2014 jdb wrote:
>>Keiran, do you think the bolts will need replacing on the Wall of Fools?
>I'd be surprised. I'm not aware of that being necessary at other cliffs
>after fires, except where the bolts were rubbish to start with. That said,
>I'm no engineer.

The bolts probably won't need replacing in the short-term, but they are certainly more likely to require replacing a bit earlier...

Durability of bolts, fastening method and the rock itself can all be variably affected by the peak temperatures of a bush fire.

JamesMc
24/01/2014
4:56:13 PM
It would be worth someone consulting their glue manufacturer, though the answer would probably be CYA.

nmonteith
24/01/2014
6:39:46 PM
I've seen a look of fires over the years and not once have I seen problems with bolts.
Wendy
25/01/2014
5:28:48 PM
http://m.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=82934

kieranl
25/01/2014
7:45:31 PM
Wow. Even though I've seen the map of the fire area, this just brings the thing home.
Another thing to note is the northern vic range and the difference between the slopes above the Emu's Foot tracks where Eureka Walls and Weirs are, and the Muline and Buandik areas. The only green bit is the delta where Weirs Creek spreads out onto the floodplain. This is 11 months after the fire and the slopes are still bare. This is why this part of the Vic Range is still closed.
This is a tinge of green starting to show so regeneration is happening, just slowly.
Reluctant
25/01/2014
11:31:35 PM
The not on picture is way wrong. Half way between the war took reservoir wall and the word zunsteins is smiths mill and Mckenzie falls. By scale zunsteins is west of weir wall by 5 to 6 weir wall lengths in valley line.
Would like to see next image west to see in asses ears was burnt again.
Wendy
26/01/2014
8:30:08 AM
asses ears is on that image and it was burnt again. It's the cliffs south of the reservoir and further west. Not far past the top of the cliff is green again.

JamesMc
31/01/2014
9:23:55 PM
Am l the only one who thinks it's slightly unreasonable that parts of the park more than 20km from the fire area are closed lo public access?
JamesMc

ajfclark
Online Now
31/01/2014
10:49:42 PM
Having seen how fast fires can move under the right conditions, 20km seems pretty close to me...

JamesMc
1/02/2014
11:13:56 AM
By that logic, Halls Gap which is within 2km should still be evacuated.

ajfclark
Online Now
1/02/2014
11:30:04 AM
And the other afternoon when they were worried about the wind swinging around, they advised everyone to leave.

It's relatively easy to tell everyone in Halls Gap something vs finding everyone that's in the bush somewhere and much easier to get them out.

ajfclark
Online Now
10/02/2014
12:02:59 PM
Now updated as controlled: http://osom.cfa.vic.gov.au/public/osom/websites_detail_mobile_2567430.html
kieranl
11/02/2014
9:23:59 AM
Rosea and Bundaleer, among others, are now open :
http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/621246/Grampians-National-Park-Update-b-10-Feb14.pdf

Red Rock Rd is listed as open from Billywing Rd to Matthews Track but the Parks map (came with the email, not on the Parks site yet) shows it closed at Anderson's Rd.
Wendy
11/02/2014
9:25:54 AM
You must have special access to PV images, Kieren. That link isn't working and when I go to the PV page, it has the 23/1 map.
kieranl
11/02/2014
9:32:38 AM
The link no longer works from the Parks page either. That's built-in obsolescence for you.
The email notifications usually come out before the web site gets updated. I've just got a new notebook and haven't set up all my tools on it yet so I'm not going to muck around trying to compress the map and upload it - it should be available soon enough
kieranl
11/02/2014
10:36:54 AM
A new link that worked a few seconds ago and has the map included.:

http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/621246/Grampians-National-Park-Update.pdf
access t CliffCare
14/02/2014
6:13:38 PM
Hi All,

Run out of time to load actual photos and info directly to Chockstone. Will do so later but please visit the CliffCare site to get the latest info as noted below.

Latest updates on Northern Grampians fires, open climbing areas and some important information on Vic Range areas
http://cliffcare.org.au/2014/02/14/northern-grampians-fire-update-14214-victoria-range-updates/ Please share to all your networks. Thanks.

Cheers,
Tracey

harold
15/02/2014
8:26:37 PM
Is Watchtower at Halls Gap open?

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