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Burnley Bouldering Wall - illumination
Will_P
7/05/2012
4:13:44 PM
Hi fellow Burnley regulars,

According to Ben's message on the blackboard at Burnley, the timing for the lights at Burnley have been adjusted, so lights now switch off at midnight, which is cool, let's keep the energy consumption down and bedtime reasonable.

However, they're not on in the morning for us pre-work people. Is it possible, whoever is the keeper-of-the-flame on this issue, to have them turn on again at, say, 5.30am, until 7am, when there's enough natural light again? Happy to contribute financially (beyond my VCC membership) or with manual labour (leave the broom out).

Cheers,

Will

ajfclark
7/05/2012
6:27:34 PM
Best place for these kind of queries is the burnley mailing list. There's details here: http://www.vicclimb.org.au/index.php?location=contact#124

I've forwarded a link to this thread on for you.
One Day Hero
7/05/2012
8:18:54 PM
You want to go bouldering on plastic at 5:30 in the morning......in the dark, through winter?

shortman
7/05/2012
8:41:50 PM
On 7/05/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>You want to go bouldering on plastic at 5:30 in the morning......in the
>dark, through winter?

Welcome to climbing in Melbourne for some of us ODH. Very friggen sad state of affairs down here.

Duang Daunk
7/05/2012
8:53:17 PM
On 7/05/2012 shortman wrote:
>On 7/05/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>>You want to go bouldering on plastic at 5:30 in the morning......in the
>>dark, through winter?
>
>Welcome to climbing in Melbourne for some of us ODH. Very friggen sad
>state of affairs down here.

It is not all bad as there are much better things to be doing at that time of morning in Melbourne. Catching graffiti artists at Burnley is always fun, and you wouldn't believe how cold the water (they tell me), there is!

The bouldering is only fair though. I had more fun rewelding my worn toe rand after an ordinary session, with intense gazing vision, than I did going for the greasy slopers.

shortman
7/05/2012
9:10:40 PM
On 7/05/2012 Superman wrote:

>
>It is not all bad as there are much better things to be doing at that
>time of morning in Melbourne. Catching graffiti artists at Burnley is always
>fun, and you wouldn't believe how cold the water (they tell me), there
>is!
>
So cold...

BenHev
8/05/2012
12:18:54 AM
On 7/05/2012 Will_P wrote:
>Hi fellow Burnley regulars,
>
>According to Ben's message on the blackboard at Burnley, the timing for
>the lights at Burnley have been adjusted, so lights now switch off at midnight,
>which is cool, let's keep the energy consumption down and bedtime reasonable.

The lights have always gone off at midnight, they just had some trouble with the timer so they were going off at 7pm for a few days. That's what they fixed, so it's back to midnight.

>However, they're not on in the morning for us pre-work people. Is it possible,
>whoever is the keeper-of-the-flame on this issue, to have them turn on
>again at, say, 5.30am, until 7am, when there's enough natural light again?
>Happy to contribute financially (beyond my VCC membership) or with manual
>labour (leave the broom out).

Um, really? I'm with ODH on this (I'm not a morning person). Is there really such a demand for pre-dawn bouldering? In winter...

On 7/05/2012 shortman wrote:
>So cold...

If you're serious, get a petition or something, I'd need some numbers to take to the elecy bill payers! (Parks Victoria). And no promises :)

Cheers,
Ben
One Day Hero
8/05/2012
1:00:15 AM
Assuming about 5kW of lights (which would have it quite well floodlit), 8 months of the year where you need lights at 5:30am, and electricity at 17c/kWh...........you're asking for about 300 bucks of electricity to be pumped into your ridiculous pre-dawn training. Not much money in the scheme of running a city, I spose........but how often are you going to actually show up?
pecheur
8/05/2012
6:04:42 AM
On 8/05/2012 One Day Hero wrote:
>Assuming about 5kW of lights (which would have it quite well floodlit),
>8 months of the year where you need lights at 5:30am, and electricity at
>17c/kWh...........you're asking for about 300 bucks of electricity to be
>pumped into your ridiculous pre-dawn training. Not much money in the scheme
>of running a city, I spose........but how often are you going to actually
>show up?

You're missing something ODH (in my pre-dawn typing) the lights are on sensors, if they don't show up, the lights aren't used.

shortman
8/05/2012
7:49:52 AM
On 8/05/2012 pecheur wrote:

>You're missing something ODH (in my pre-dawn typing) the lights are on
>sensors, if they don't show up, the lights aren't used.

You're missing something Patrick. The lights are on a timer, not a motion sensor.
pecheur
8/05/2012
8:30:42 AM
On 8/05/2012 shortman wrote:
>On 8/05/2012 pecheur wrote:
>
>>You're missing something ODH (in my pre-dawn typing) the lights are on
>>sensors, if they don't show up, the lights aren't used.
>
>Your missing something Patrick. The lights are on a timer, not a motion
>sensor.

I stand corrected, I thought they were on both timer and sensor ...
gfdonc
8/05/2012
9:39:40 AM
Let's stop this sensorless debate ...
Will_P
8/05/2012
10:23:17 AM
On 8/05/2012 BenHev wrote:

'The lights have always gone off at midnight, they just had some trouble with the timer so they were going off at 7pm for a few days. That's what they fixed, so it's back to midnight.'

But since Burnley reopened, and until at most a couple of weeks ago, they were on from when I arrived (5.30-6am) until it was light. Ask the two crazy Euro guys who were living at Burnley for three weeks. Why the change?

'Um, really? I'm with ODH on this (I'm not a morning person). Is there really such a demand for pre-dawn bouldering? In winter...'

Honestly, no, there isn't. A few other people show up sometimes between 7-8.30am, but it's usually light by then.

'If you're serious, get a petition or something, I'd need some numbers to take to the elecy bill payers! (Parks Victoria). And no promises :)'

I am serious, but it'd be a pretty short petition. And if ODH's calculations are correct (and to answer your question ODH, three days a week. Why? Too much? Not enough? Both? C'mon...) then, yeah, it wouldn't be a very reasonable request to PV. 'So Parks, there's this one guy who's a real morning person, and he feels like an idiot bouldering with a headlamp, so could you cover an extra $300 for Burnley?'

But thanks for responding, and the work you do keeping Burnley open and all.

Cheers,

Will
>
>Cheers,
>Ben

BenHev
8/05/2012
11:36:08 PM
On 8/05/2012 Will_P wrote:
>
>But since Burnley reopened, and until at most a couple of weeks ago, they
>were on from when I arrived (5.30-6am) until it was light. Ask the two
>crazy Euro guys who were living at Burnley for three weeks. Why the change?
>

Probably they're not meant to be coming on in the morning, but they didn't know about it (didn't go out to check!). When the lights were going off at 7pm (don't know why that started either), it took them a couple of goes to fix, and in the end they replaced the electronic timer, (which is what I wrote about on the board). So when they did that, the timings would have been reset.

Back in Sept 2011 someone turned up at 1am for a boulder, and I passed on their query about lack of lights. PV said then "the three walls are lit up until 12 midnight then switch off via a timer. There is no intention to leave them on all night."

I think that's how it's meant to be.

Cheers,
Ben

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