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OT: Canyons around Canberra

wallwombat
19/11/2009
3:32:45 PM
Evan, if the canyons at Bungonia aren' the "whole banana" then you are not going to be happy with anything that you will find in the Ettrema/ Nerriga region. I have been walking around there for years and there isn' any canyoning in the same vein as the Blueys.

You will get hot and sweaty and probably get bitten by a Brown Snake.

If you want the pdf for Tuross Falls which is 2 hours south of Canberra let me know. I will email it. I'm keen to go there as it has 10-15m highballs (DWS) above very deep pools. It has waterslides and a short canyon. It also has a big scary climb called Brown Underpants Arete that just has to be done. I think it's a 19.

I still reccomend doind Jarrara Creek and continuing down Bungonia Creek. Jerrara has some jumps,, abseils and compulsory swims and a 70m watefall at the end. Then you still have the meaty bit of Bungonia Creek to do.

Shame Spring Creek is closed as it is the most full on canyon I have ever done. About 10 pitches, most of them 40-50m. Awesome day.
climberman
19/11/2009
4:28:28 PM
The key to Blueys canyons is the burramoko sandstone - I don't think it is in the Budawangs.

evanbb
19/11/2009
9:17:13 PM
On 19/11/2009 climberman wrote:
>The key to Blueys canyons is the burramoko sandstone - I don't think it
>is in the Budawangs.

Good! Some geological rigour to the discussion.

I'm calling my contacts at Geoscience Australia tomorrow and asking for the Burramoko data set.

Cambo
6/02/2012
8:42:04 PM
Do you remember how to access the canyon??

Thanks
bobic
7/02/2012
8:13:24 AM
I reckon a bit further north of the Budawangs at Ettrema has more potential for canyons as it's more like the Bluies with large tablelands funneling water into the valley below. The Budawangs is more gentle slopes with a few rocky peaks.
Estey
7/02/2012
8:30:59 AM
On 18/11/2009 wallwombat wrote:
>I have done all the canyons around Bungonia. Spring Creek is currently
>off limits, due to loose rock, which is unfortunate because it is bloody
>unreal. I wrote to the National Parks about it and it doesn't seem like
>it will be opening again.
>

WW- I agree Spring Creek rates as one of the great canyons within a daytrip of Sydney. Definately in my top 5.

I was going to approach NPWS and/or the Bungonia Trust about reopening. To get a feel for the lay of the land can you advise when you wrote your letter, if you got a response, and if so what they actually said.

Cheers
Steve

Pat
7/02/2012
8:32:43 AM
Why is Spring Creek closed?

grantoss
7/02/2012
1:55:32 PM
On 7/02/2012 Pat wrote:
>Why is Spring Creek closed?

there has been a sign up for I reckon at least 10 yrs in the rangers office saying its closed due to rockfall or instability or something.... I doubt it will be reopened
Estey
7/02/2012
2:46:11 PM
On 7/02/2012 grantoss wrote:
>On 7/02/2012 Pat wrote:
>>Why is Spring Creek closed?
>
>there has been a sign up for I reckon at least 10 yrs in the rangers office
>saying its closed due to rockfall or instability or something.... I doubt
>it will be reopened

Closed since 98 from memory.

Things change over time. Loose rock falls away. Scree stabilises with regrowth.

Its worth a try, you never know unless you have a go.

JamesMc
7/02/2012
9:21:53 PM
Someone had an accident with falling rock at Spring ck and the official knee jerked.
JamesMc


Dr Nick
7/02/2012
10:22:44 PM
My understanding is management won't say it's kosher without a geo to sign off that nothing's going to fall on someone, and no geo in his or her right mind will put their signature to that without far more money than management can front. It's probably not that different a situation rockfall wise to when it was considered OK, but no one is going to put themselves on the line to say so in an official capacity.
widewetandslippery
7/02/2012
10:50:13 PM
Sounds like time to f--- the police and do it

wallwombat
8/02/2012
2:19:55 AM
On 7/02/2012 Estey wrote:

>WW- I agree Spring Creek rates as one of the great canyons within a daytrip
>of Sydney. Definately in my top 5.
>
>I was going to approach NPWS and/or the Bungonia Trust about reopening.
>To get a feel for the lay of the land can you advise when you wrote your
>letter, if you got a response, and if so what they actually said.
>
>Cheers
>Steve

16/09/2007

Hi,

I recently visited the National Parks and Wildlife Service web site and noticed that Spring Creek Canyon was closed indefinitely. I have descended the Canyon three times in the past, although not recently. I was simply writing to inquire the reason behind the closure. I have no intention of returning to the canyon and really am writing this purely out of curiosity.

Regards,

WW

25/09/2007

Hello Adam

Thank you for your email.

Spring Creek Canyon has been closed to the public for some time; it is unstable, and, we highly recommend people not use that area. Feel free to contact us if you are still curious.



Regards

Colleen McMahon
Estey
9/02/2012
7:37:52 AM
Cheers Wall Wombat
Wollemi
2/04/2012
2:06:45 PM
From OzCanyons;

Hello fellow canyoners

I sit on B.R.A.G which is an advisory committee to Bungonia National Park/NPWS. The issue of Spring Creek canyon closure pops up every now and then and it was discussed again at the Friday March 30 meeting.

Background of closure
Spring Creek canyon was closed many years ago owing to a landslip at the same time NSW Police were using the canyon. NPWS closed the canyon due to safety issues and remains closed.

New development
As it's been some years since the landslide, Spring Creek canyon will be visited soon with view to assess the canyon in particular the landslip area. Let's hope that the outcome of this trip will be positive.

Canyoner representation on BRAG
The BRAG committee consists of Park users who have input into the Park. There is good representation from caving, outdoor industry, Scouting, military, education, but not canyoning. As I attend BRAG regularly representing caving, I'd be pleased to pass to BRAG/NPWS any issues from Ozcanyons and report back to canyoners. I seek Ozcanyons members opinion on this.

Help needed... before & after pics of Spring Creek canyon.
It would be helpful to have before and after photos of the major pitches with canyon walls, do you have photos showing pitches with walls? If you do, these photos may assist with the opening of the canyon.

If you can help, please contact me offline.

Joe

Caver & canyoner
jsydney@choice.com.au

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Joe also tells me BRAG (Bungonia Recreation Advisory Group) is desperately in need of a rock climbing rep. Would you know of anyone who could spare 3-4 Fridays a year to attend and voice rock climber concerns?
widewetandslippery
2/04/2012
4:56:16 PM
Ben Cossey you should put your hand up. You have climbed a fair bit there and you are the perfect person to deal with government aurthority figures, uncle Fester from the scouts and gunnery sargent Smith from the Army.

wallwombat
2/04/2012
8:41:17 PM
My bet is, no one will put their hand up.

JamesMc
2/04/2012
9:08:26 PM
You could try the gorges around the Snowy River in Victoria . Ie Little River, Boundary Creek etc. Still not exactly Claustral.

JamesMc


wallwombat
2/04/2012
9:15:29 PM
On 2/04/2012 JamesMc wrote:
>You could try the gorges around the Snowy River in Victoria . Ie Little
>River, Boundary Creek etc. Still not exactly Claustral.

Closer than Utah but still not that close to Canberra.

JamesMc
2/04/2012
10:00:58 PM
Close enough for a weekend.

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