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Crag & Route Beta

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Superstu
4/03/2011
11:26:04 AM
Sounds like you need some buddhist meditation yourself Damien, learn to live peacefully in this world not fighting against everything and everyone.

Buddhist centres generally practice silence during certain hours and so the noise from climbers wandering back from a day at the crags rabbiting on about their latest wankpoint would certainly be unhelpful.

The walk in from the Dams Cliff is not hard at all and puts you in a good mood for a great day at the County.


tnd
4/03/2011
11:29:14 AM
On 4/03/2011 One Day Hero wrote:
>>I'm going to time the drive+walk. If the Dam Cliff approach adds more
>than 10mins each way, the monks can suck my balls!

I reckon Dam Cliffs access saves 5 minutes driving and costs 10 minutes walking. Even a halfwit like you should be able to calculate that that's a net 5 minute extra each way.
One Day Hero
4/03/2011
11:31:34 AM
On 4/03/2011 tnd wrote:
>Don't blame the owners, blame the government. They subdivided it.
>
I do blame the government for not leaving a measly 2m wide foot track so that the 20 million australians who do not own a segment of the barricade would be able to access a chunk of public land which belongs to all of us.

I also blame the wealthy squatters for enforcing the bad planning! They don't do it because having a few dozen people crossing their land each w/e is a nuisance. It's because the enforcement of the blockade allows them to treat that vast area of bush as if it were their own.
One Day Hero
4/03/2011
11:39:09 AM
On 4/03/2011 superstu wrote:
>Buddhist centres generally practice silence during certain hours and so
>the noise from climbers wandering back from a day at the crags rabbiting
>on about their latest wankpoint would certainly be unhelpful.
>
In case you're too fuching stupid to notice, those silence-loving Buddhists have bought a property whose nearest neighbours are only 30m away!

If those neighbours have bogan kids (likely, in that neck of the woods), the Monk dudes can be subjected to loud music and partys and all sorts of shit 16hrs a day, every day of the year...........and there's not a thing they can do, cause the bogans own property! I hardly think a few people walking past is a major problem (no closer than people on the street are to my place!)

Walking and talking and jangling hexes? Fuch right off, the c--katoos and currawongs are causing more noise than climbers! There's plenty of cheap land round Broken Hill if they wanted utter silence.

tnd
4/03/2011
11:42:41 AM
On 4/03/2011 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 4/03/2011 tnd wrote:
>>Don't blame the owners, blame the government. They subdivided it.
>>
>I do blame the government for not leaving a measly 2m wide foot track
>so that the 20 million australians who do not own a segment of the barricade
>would be able to access a chunk of public land which belongs to all of
>us.

Have to agree with this. If CC was surrounded by subdivided land on purpose then it was very anti-social decision making. More likely somebody at the Lands Dept just stuffed up and didn't notice they were making an island. (Or thought, it's just a bunch of rocks that're no good for building on, no-one will care...).

>
>I also blame the wealthy squatters for enforcing the bad planning! They
>don't do it because having a few dozen people crossing their land each
>w/e is a nuisance. It's because the enforcement of the blockade allows
>them to treat that vast area of bush as if it were their own.

"wealthy squatters" is a bit hyperbolic. They're just oversized suburban blocks, we're not dealing with the landed gentry here.
One Day Hero
4/03/2011
11:43:30 AM
On 4/03/2011 tnd wrote:
>
>I reckon Dam Cliffs access saves 5 minutes driving and costs 10 minutes
>walking. Even a halfwit like you should be able to calculate that that's
>a net 5 minute extra each way.

Like I said, I'm gonna time it. If it turns out to be more than 10mins, the Buddists can blow!
mabsydney
4/03/2011
11:45:20 AM
"Exaggerated drivel. Who's threatening to shoot anyone?"

Well I"m getting tempted right now actually :)

peterc
4/03/2011
11:56:44 AM
On 4/03/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>I also got locked inside sometime in early 2000. Railway gate was wide
>open when we drove in, but then locked up when we came back! We had to
>dismantle a fence and (cough cough) drive through the back yard of one
>of the new houses in the sub-division. We didn't stop until we got to Arapiles.

Yep, the old dams cliff gate shenanigans. The gate was sometimes open, sometimes locked, open, locked, hacksawed, chained, re-hacksawed, re-chained, demolished in the middle of the night, re-built etc etc...

That's exactly what happened to us Neil. We'd been told that State Rail was leaving the gate open, but then it was locked when we tried to get out. Despite trying as many other options as we could think of at the time (apart from say using the car jack to crack the dams cliff gate open - which, as the temperature was dropping and we were getting hungry, tired and more and more motivated to get out, was in danger of looking like a sensible option) we approached Mike and told him what happened.

He was very understanding about it, and let us drive out through his place.


One Day Hero
4/03/2011
12:19:04 PM
On 4/03/2011 bones wrote:
>
>I love playing totem tennis, but I don't have room to swing a bat in my
>backyard. I'm going to come and play at your house.

Not very accurate, Bones. What you should have said is;

"I love playing totem tennis, but there's no room to play in my 2 bedroom govy. I know, I'll go down to the public courts which are free for eveyone to use.............doo, de doo, de doo..............oh no, a bunch of rich cnuts have bought all the houses surrounding the public courts, and gated the whole suburb off (including the public land within)........aw shucks, I guess I don't get to play totem tennis anymore......spose I'll take up BMW burning as my new hobby!"

IdratherbeclimbingM9
4/03/2011
8:29:47 PM
On 4/03/2011 One Day Hero wrote:
>I'm going to time the drive+walk. If the Dam Cliff approach adds more
>than 10mins each way, the monks can (snip)!

I thought I had you pegged pretty well from your posts up till now, but this one has me disappointed with your response ODH, as it indicates to me that you have slipped well down the lattesportclimber slopeofconvenience!

Hmm. At the possibility of being accused of trying to rescue you(!) ~> What is a bit of a walk? ... especially given you are recruiting a belay for projects near Passport To Insanity? ... So, in the words of the ODH of old; ... "harden the fark up" (read; walk the longer walk mate, since it is not even a bush-bash!) ☺
Heh, heh, heh.

On a different note; I do agree with your sentiment about public land seemingly being locked up, but there are other (probably more productive), ways and means to getting that sort of thing changed...

As an aside, I have a covenant (that pre-existed) over a strip of my small acreage, that allows for firefighting access to another area. General public used to consider it their preserve to use it, however I have since politely informed them (on a number of occasions, as they seem to come to my house to ask about where to go!), that unless they are authorised and actively fighting a fire, then they won't get through, as my neighbour (also affected by the same covenant), has locked the gates at his end!
One Day Hero
4/03/2011
11:13:42 PM
On 4/03/2011 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>
>I thought I had you pegged pretty well from your posts up till now, but
>this one has me disappointed with your response ODH, as it indicates to
>me that you have slipped well down the lattesportclimber slopeofconvenience!

Yeah, I know, I'm a pussy! Its just that two of my pet hates have collided here; my hatred of conveniencifying everything, and my hatred of greedy fuchs who try to own things which ain't theirs.

It's not the 10mins of walking which bothers me. Its the smarmy ballbags who think they've somehow bought more than what they paid for, and the way they assume climbers will just fold once its apparent that the law is not on their side.............I'd love to see them trying to enforce this shit, and can just imagine the phone call to the Lithgow cops!

"O.k...........so, you have a trespasser on you're land...........did you tell them to leave?...........you did. What did they do?...............They left?..........right, but not the way they came in?.............ok......but they're not on your land anymore?......right........so, what exactly do expect us to do about it? Would you like us to send the CSI team down to swab for DNA? They're gone now, get over it, you're fuching buddist aren't you? How about you get some zen happening and leave us alone so we can do some real fuching police work!"
TonyB
5/03/2011
5:28:32 AM
Living Like Trees: The Hindu and Buddhist Ideal of Sharing

"Indeed, the primary activity which a Buddhist learns to develop is unselfish sharing, which forms a basis for further moral and spiritual development. "

"'With a guest come all the gods. If a guest is honored, so are they; if he goes away disappointed, they are disappointed too.' (Mahabharata: 14.92) "

"The hospitality has to be all embracing, and the guest, whoever she or he may be, has to be welcomed with open arms:
Even if the lowliest of the low arrives as a guest, the householder should welcome him. (Mahabharata: 14.92) "

http://www.exoticindiaart.com/article/dana/

Are climbers included as "lowliest of the low" ?
Surely they don't want to "disappoint" climbers ?

pmonks
5/03/2011
6:57:58 AM
The monks shouldn't have to worry about clanging hexes for too much longer, if the proposed grid ring bolting of Cosmic goes ahead.

Not sure I'd want to trade in clanking trad gear for sportoweanie / eurotrash spraylording, but apparently I'm in the minority on that account.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
5/03/2011
7:49:16 PM
On 5/03/2011 pmonks wrote:
>The monks shouldn't have to worry about clanging hexes for too much longer,
>if the proposed grid ring bolting of Cosmic goes ahead.
>
>Not sure I'd want to trade in clanking trad gear for sportoweanie / eurotrash
>spraylording, but apparently I'm in the AWESOME minority on that account.

Fixedthatforyapm!

pmonks
6/03/2011
8:14:24 AM
I suspect I may be the only member of the Chockstone AWESOME brigade!

ambyeok
7/03/2011
4:28:05 AM
On 5/03/2011 TonyB wrote:
>Lots of stuff he googled...

Well I'm convinced. Shall I quote some verse from the Koran, the Bible? Buddhist practice does not require silence, one meditates in the farthest mountain as as one does in the crowded market. Regardless, is your rock climbing more important than their own pursuit?

Climboholic
7/03/2011
9:25:40 AM
On 4/03/2011 One Day Hero wrote:
>... the monks can suck my balls!

PFFTHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA HaHa Ha ha!

As a buddhist I laughed so hard that people at work wondered what was going on.

If all Buddhists had a sense of humor and didn't take themselves so seriously. This wouldn't even be an issue.
widewetandslippery
7/03/2011
9:39:11 AM
On 7/03/2011 ambyeok wrote:
is your rock
>climbing more important than their own pursuit?
>

yes
widewetandslippery
7/03/2011
9:48:27 AM
It shits me these dog eating beggar pinheads get religous status. They are Buddhidst, they are a bloody cult, not that I give religions much more slack.

What about the bushfire risk they cause when they start self immolating! I've seen TV, I know what those buddhist monks do.

Climboholic
7/03/2011
9:53:27 AM
This is why I love chockstone. Entertainment on a quiet day at work.

What exactly makes them a cult? The lack of belief in an imaginary friend?

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