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insane gear prices!

climbingfool
14-May-2010
11:53:37 AM
On 14/05/2010 egosan wrote:
>The sooner we are all ordering from OS the sooner the local retailers
>will have to change their practices.
>
>Cheers,
>Sol

Practices wont change, businesses will go under.
ZERO
14-May-2010
12:03:03 PM
>It's not a great situation for local gear shops, who do provide additional
>service through advice and letting you try on / handle the goods before
>purchase - but this only goes so far and differences in price of 200-300%
>strain the relationship.

Most stores, eg Hardware Lane, could hardly charge anything for "service". I have often walked out of certain shops that cater more and more for urban pretentiousness than outdoorsy types, and more often than not you know more than the junior casual sales staff. Go in, try on the shoes, make an offer based on the internet and go from there.
If more people challenge the ticket price then maybe things will change.

cruze
14-May-2010
12:09:39 PM
Not that I spend much time in gear stores, but I did venture into MDs in Little Bourke St a couple of months ago after they had apparently changed their floor layout. Did I just miss the gear, or has all climbing gear been removed from the store?
Canary in the coal mine?

wallwombat
14-May-2010
12:10:55 PM
On 14/05/2010 grangrump wrote:
>Pads and skis might be poor things to highlight, given size?
>anyone ever shipped these to Australia?
>$how much for shipping?

I have enquired about getting a pad shipped, out of interest.

Getting a $200 Organic pad shipped from the US was going to cost $280 shipping and getting an Alpkit pad, that cost 90 GBP, shipped from the UK was going to cost 160 GBP in postage.

Jenni, at Alpkit gave me this reason - "All couriers work on volumetric weight, not dead weight so although the Phud only weighs 5 KG, it volumises out at 43 KG hence the high shipping cost."


ajfclark
14-May-2010
12:14:06 PM
On 14/05/2010 cruze wrote:
>Not that I spend much time in gear stores, but I did venture into MDs in Little Bourke St a couple of months ago after they had apparently changed their floor layout. Did I just miss the gear, or has all climbing gear been removed from the store?

The store has expanded and all the climbing gear is upstairs now.

cruze
14-May-2010
12:18:06 PM
Great. Given the downturn in a lot of other industrial sectors, outdoor stores must be even more profitable than I had imagined.

HM33
14-May-2010
12:31:45 PM
This topic is always one that generates a lot of posts and its one I am always interested in as I am 'in the industry' and am accurately aware of the AU and overseas pricing issues.

I don't begrudge any climbers buying overseas to get a better deal but I would encourage you to check locally (with the smaller climbing retailers not necessarily the big stores) before you do so as if possible i'm sure they would rather make an AU sale than have the $ go overseas.


Miguel75
14-May-2010
12:36:58 PM
On 14/05/2010 climbingfool wrote:
>Getting anything shipped to Australia is ridiculously expensive. For every
>dollar you spend you are looking at about $0.80 in shipping and associated
>costs, then add on domestic shipping costs around australia! not quite
>as bad, but pretty close.

If you scrounge around online you can save money on just about everything...

Last year I shipped the following snowboarding gear from the US; 3 snowboards (2 of them big boards over 160cm), 1 pair of boots, 2 jackets, 2 pair of pants, gloves, backpack and lots of assorted gear. All up approx AUS $3900 retail. It weighed just shy of 20kg and I payed Aus$270 to have it shipped from Salt Lake CIty to Melbourne via DHS.

egosan
14-May-2010
12:43:08 PM
On 14/05/2010 climbingfool wrote:
>Getting anything shipped to Australia is ridiculously expensive. For every
>dollar you spend you are looking at about $0.80 in shipping and associated
>costs, then add on domestic shipping costs around australia! not quite
>as bad, but pretty close.

Not at all the case with most climbing gear. I cannot speak for bouldering pads, but for cams, ropes, helmets, shoes, the shipping costs are cheap, you should try it. If you are being charged .80 to the dollar for shipping you are getting it in the shorts.

wombly
14-May-2010
12:43:48 PM
Time to unleash the pedant...

"All couriers work on volumetric weight, not dead weight so although the Phud only weighs 5 KG, it volumises out at 43 KG hence the high shipping cost."

volumetric weight??? why invent a ridiculous term when you could simply refer to volume???

climbingfool
14-May-2010
12:50:35 PM

>
>If you scrounge around online you can save money on just about everything...
>
From a consumer standpoint maybe you can, but it is different from a wholesale standpoint.

climbingfool
14-May-2010
12:52:48 PM
>Not at all the case with most climbing gear. I cannot speak for bouldering
>pads, but for cams, ropes, helmets, shoes, the shipping costs are cheap,
>you should try it. If you are being charged .80 to the dollar for shipping
>you are getting it in the shorts.


Maybe you can find me some prices on $30k worth of climbing gear from overseas then.

wallwombat
14-May-2010
12:53:55 PM
On 14/05/2010 wombly wrote:
>Time to unleash the pedant...
>
>"All couriers work on volumetric weight, not dead weight so although the
>Phud only weighs 5 KG, it volumises out at 43 KG hence the high shipping
>cost."
>
>volumetric weight??? why invent a ridiculous term when you could simply
>refer to volume???

I suppose you would have to ask the couriers about that but that is a direct quote from Jenni at Alpkit and I have no reason to doubt her.


climbingfool
14-May-2010
1:06:07 PM
>I suppose you would have to ask the couriers about that but that is a
>direct quote from Jenni at Alpkit and I have no reason to doubt her.

It is true, that is how it is done.

You have a box to ship and its actual weight is 4 kg.

Measure the box, l x w x h (m) and times that by 250, that is what the volumetric weight is. if this calc comes out as 6.5 kg, they will round it up and charge you 7 kg. if the volumetric calc comes out to 1 kg, they will charge you the actual weight of 4kg.

you get charged whatever is higher, actual or volumetric.



egosan
14-May-2010
1:07:28 PM
On 14/05/2010 climbingfool wrote:
>
>Maybe you can find me some prices on $30k worth of climbing gear from
>overseas then.

I don't have to. I only need to ship a couple 10s of Kilograms once in a while. Kilograms of stuff I buy at US retail prices. Which sounds like the price you buy wholesale at. None of this matters, however.

My objection to your comments is solely that you are justifying and defending a broken retail system. You won't fix it by continuing to practice it in its current form.

I don't have any answers for you, but I don't need to. I can buy from the US and point out that the King has no cloths on.
boulderingbadger
14-May-2010
1:16:06 PM
If you are after a crash pad head over to www.asana.com

$240 US for the 4" inch foam pad incl shipping and you get to customise the colours...

great customer service too!

wallwombat
14-May-2010
1:27:46 PM
On 14/05/2010 boulderingbadger wrote:
>If you are after a crash pad head over to www.asana.com
>
>$240 US for the 4" inch foam pad incl shipping and you get to customise
>the colours...
>
>great customer service too!

Asana ship pads to Australia for $45 US?

I'm sorry but I find this hard to believe, especially when they charge $30 US to ship to addresses in continental USA.


ajfclark
14-May-2010
1:43:25 PM
On 14/05/2010 boulderingbadger wrote:
>If you are after a crash pad head over to http://www.asana.com

That address doesn't appear to have anything to do with bouldering pads...
dalai
14-May-2010
1:45:19 PM
Found the same thing... Try http://www.asanaclimbing.com

Miguel75
14-May-2010
2:02:56 PM
>Maybe you can find me some prices on $30k worth of climbing gear from
>overseas then.

In a purely non sexual way; I'd love to see your rack.

Being a capitalist pig, and again in a non sexual way, I'd be happy to help: for a price!

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