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Sydney Rock Climbing Guide iPhone App

11:10:09 AM
On 14/12/2010 pmonks wrote:
>Just to set a couple of things straight:

  • Daniel used the SSS data (scraped from the site), as is his right
    >provided he licensed the derivative work correctly (which he did).

  • >
  • The SSS data is (as Neil points out) 4 years out of date.

  • >
  • I recently provided a full dump of the SSS data to the ACA, and I
    >believe they are currently working on merging it with the more accurate
    >but incomplete data they already had for Sydney.
    > Once that's complete ACA will become the "system of record" for climbing
    >info for Sydney. All of the data will be CC-SA licensed.

  • >
  • Daniel is already investigating using the ACA data instead of SSS,
    >which is beneficial for everyone (not least because it opens up the app
    >to being the mobile version of ACA, which covers considerably more than
    >just Sydney).

  • >
  • From my interactions with him, Daniel is very open to any and all
    >feedback on the app. I have no idea if he's on Chockstone or not, so would
    >suggest sending it to him via email (his address is in the app).

  • >


Thanks Peter, I'm not much use on the tech side on all of this but if I can help in some way let me know. Agree the app will be great when the data is accurate, fully agree it should be synchronised with the ACA data.

11:28:10 AM
On 14/12/2010 pmonks wrote:
>Agreed, although doesn't the ACA site have editing capabilities already?
> Wouldn't it make more sense to just bulk load all the SSS data then sort
>it out using the existing tools??

There are quite a few complete guuides for crags that don't need the SSS data I would think. There is also lots of crags where all the routes have been entered but the descriptions might not be entered. I don't want to see duplicate entires of the same climbs as people have 'ticked' routes in the database from years ago so we need to keep those entries. Manually doing it for crags that already exist in the ACA is the only way to go as far as I can see. If a crag doesn't exist at all then a direct port across would be appropriate.

11:32:35 AM
Thanks garbie. I reckon the best possible thing to do is to email Daniel and report whatever niggles you've found in the app, and maybe also urge him to switch over to using the ACA data.

Then make sure you update the ACA site whenever you can - it has the potential to be a truly world class service (particularly in combination with Daniel's app!), but is dependent on getting as many people as possible involved in the mundane job of maintaining the quality and accuracy of the data.

[DISCLAIMER] I have nothing whatsoever to do with either the ACA or the iPhone app. I'm just a very strong believer in ensuring that climbing info be free (as in speech), and ACA is currently the best way to achieve that.

11:42:28 AM
Does the ACA have some form of dump/export facility so an app could pull updates?

11:43:34 AM
Mt Alex at Mittagong is all up to date on ACA. Make sure that info stays as is !!

11:45:08 AM
On 14/12/2010 ajfclark wrote:
>Does the ACA have some form of dump/export facility so an app could pull

Dunno - that's one of the things I hope Daniel chats with them about (that or a CRUD REST API - both would be ideal!).

11:50:53 AM
ok cool.

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