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O.T. - Cage Match Revisited - Denial and Religion
widewetandslippery
15/12/2009
9:47:44 AM
I can't imagine starting a war over "beliefs" but I'll fight anyone who threatens my ability to eat pork products.

Eduardo Slabofvic
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15/12/2009
9:47:51 AM
Atheists don't believe in God, because God made them that way.

gordoste
15/12/2009
10:09:18 AM
On 15/12/2009 voodoo wrote:
>On 14/12/2009 gordoste wrote:
>>pick the most beautiful thing you can think of and ask "what are the
>chances
>>of that occurring without the guidance of an omnipotent, conscious entity?"
>>apparently it works for a lot of people
>
>And to take the logical next step, think of all the unpleasant things
>in the world - such as, say, onchocerciasis caused by an equally 'beautiful'
>large tissue roundworm that burrows under the skin and leads to permanent
>blindess. Sending millions of children blind... by the same logic that
>'proves' his existence, I guess this God of theirs must also be a total
>prick.

Please note that I never said this deity was nice. I'm just trying to argue existence.

gordoste
15/12/2009
10:11:49 AM
Granted, I'm just trying to point out some of the reasons that others believe in God.

However, I'd like to know what would constitute proof of a deity? If the answer is "nothing" then your mind is as closed as the people you criticise.

personally I'm an agnostic who likes to encourage mutual respect between atheists and believers

evanbb
15/12/2009
10:16:40 AM
On 15/12/2009 gordoste wrote:
>However, I'd like to know what would constitute proof of a deity? If the
>answer is "nothing" then your mind is as closed as the people you criticise.

I've thought about this a lot. Any good scientist will tell you that the strength of a theory is its ability to be disproven; how could my theory that there is no God be disproven by observation.

My answer is I Don't Know. But I reckon I'll recognise it when I see it.
widewetandslippery
15/12/2009
11:41:32 AM
If there was a god pigs would milk beer and give birth to racks of lamb.

ajfclark
15/12/2009
11:42:07 AM
Is bacon not good enough for you?
widewetandslippery
15/12/2009
11:46:57 AM
I'll have to live with the bacon as there certainly is not a god.

evanbb
15/12/2009
12:30:15 PM
On 15/12/2009 ajfclark wrote:
>Is bacon not good enough for you?

A bacon flavoured rack of lamb has promise.

Or a pig that craps chorizzo.

hero
15/12/2009
1:12:26 PM
In a twist of irony I take the fact that you eat lamb and pig as proof there is no god.

GravityHound
15/12/2009
1:14:16 PM
Homer : What? no ham?

Lisa : No!

Homer : no bacon?

Lisa : No!

Homer : no pork chops?

Lisa : No! Dad, they all come from the same animal!

Homer : Yes Lisa, a wonderful maaagical animal.

widewetandslippery
15/12/2009
1:20:28 PM
On 15/12/2009 hero wrote:
>In a twist of irony I take the fact that you eat lamb and pig as proof
>there is no god.

What am I meant to eat? Fruit? Yeah right.
hero
15/12/2009
3:28:34 PM
I didn't say don't eat it. I said it was a proof.
Wendy
15/12/2009
4:07:36 PM
On 15/12/2009 wallwombat wrote:
>On 15/12/2009 Wendy wrote:
>>.....but can you at least make her a legal age
>
>16 is the legal age of consent in every Australian state except South
>Australia and Tasmania where it is 17.

Only if you happen to be within 2 years of their age. The age of consent more generally is 18.

wallwombat
15/12/2009
4:40:18 PM
On 15/12/2009 Wendy wrote:
>Only if you happen to be within 2 years of their age. The age of consent
>more generally is 18.

That's a good law but I can't find any reference to it.

The only instance of the age of consent being 18, seems to be for homosexual males in some states. Until you mentioned that it was 17 I thought it was 16 in all Australian states. That's why I looked it up.

http://www.ageofconsent.com/australia.htm

Personally, I'm a lot more attracted to women closer to my own age.

Wendy
15/12/2009
5:55:37 PM
On 15/12/2009 wallwombat wrote:
>On 15/12/2009 Wendy wrote:
>>Only if you happen to be within 2 years of their age. The age of consent
>>more generally is 18.
>
>That's a good law but I can't find any reference to it.
>
>The only instance of the age of consent being 18, seems to be for homosexual
>males in some states. Until you mentioned that it was 17 I thought it was
>16 in all Australian states. That's why I looked it up.
>
>http://www.ageofconsent.com/australia.htm
>
>Personally, I'm a lot more attracted to women closer to my own age.

That would be a normal, sensible and healthy thing, so I'm really very happy for you!
>
>
Now you mention it, I can't find it either. Maybe it changed since I studied or maybe I had a hopefuly hallucination, because I think it's quite a sensible law, even for younger ages again. It accepts that teenagers will have sex with their peers and that's really quite OK. But there's still something very wrong with 16 yo being considered able to consent with 20, 30, 40, 50 yo. 16 yo are often still in year 10 these days.

wallwombat
15/12/2009
6:05:37 PM
I put the last bit in so people didn't think I was a dirty old man.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
15/12/2009
6:14:07 PM
ww&s wrote;
>What am I meant to eat? Fruit? Yeah right.

On 15/12/2009 wallwombat wrote:
>I put the last bit in so people didn't think I was a dirty old man.


You fellows might enjoy this pic?



~> Gotta watch out for bad fruit !


Back Off topic! ...
hero wrote on 12/12/09;
> It occurs to me, that there is a strange correlation between religion and denying climate change.

Those that put 'blinkers' on, irrespective of the faith they hold too, are short changing themselves in my opinion.

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