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Batman?

22-Oct-2009
5:47:15 PM

On 22/10/2009 nmonteith wrote:
>> Climbing that ladder at>Wingello was a nightmare!

the original one isn't that bad ya big wuss. and the routes are well worth it. ethically indistinguishable from the shipley logs imo


nmonteith

22-Oct-2009
6:14:17 PM

On 22/10/2009 WM wrote:
>On 22/10/2009 nmonteith wrote:>> Climbing that ladder at>Wingello was a
>nightmare!
>
>the original one isn't that bad ya big wuss. and the routes are well worth
>it. ethically indistinguishable from the shipley logs imo

I wasn't talking ethics - but basic physics! As shown in photo 2 it required a ladder 'holder' and a belayer
both working simultaneously to help the 'climber' get up the ladder. It felt like a fairground challenge - $10
to the person who can climb the wobbly ladder of doom!


rodw

22-Oct-2009
6:50:38 PM

Thats Mr Hawkshaws greatest moment your trashing there Monty


HM33

22-Oct-2009
7:21:33 PM

just take it down and batman it then monty!

its the crux of the 25 above it.


rodw

22-Oct-2009
8:01:09 PM

An artist rendition of the times before the ladder was installed, of the locals setting up the stick clip....back to the good ole days for you monty......


spiinal

22-Oct-2009
8:05:13 PM

On 22/10/2009 pmonks wrote:
>On 22/10/2009 masterofrup wrote:
>>never had the pleasure whilst climbing but i think it means make like
>batman
>>(old dodgy tv series version) and climb the rope by turning the camera
>>to one side and just strolling up. how the rope got there in the first
>>place I dont know but perhaps a long stick?
>
>Yep that's pretty much it - stick clip the first bolt then haul up to
>wherever the route officially starts.

cool -- thanks for that Monks -- I get I get it now


macciza

22-Oct-2009
11:39:24 PM

On 22/10/2009 WM wrote:
> . . . ethically indistinguishable from the shipley logs imo

Wow, can't agree with that, have you had your eyes checked lately . .
or maybe there are natural ladders in the bush that I have missed, best check mine too . . .

Hey, I've got it, maybe someone could invent a device that makes it easier to ascend a rope,
or anyone know that McGyver trick with the shoelaces to rope climb - that would be cool . . .


rodw

23-Oct-2009
8:03:50 AM

You wouldnt notice the ladders anyway macca as the glare of all the ring bolts at wingello would have blinded you before you got to rave cave:)

The main reason those ladders are there is that the start is very undercut and really crap rock and were the first bolt, to which you batman up to start the route, is very high (much higher than your normal painters pole)..thus the reason for the fixed ladders

widewetandslippery

23-Oct-2009
8:11:14 AM

On 22/10/2009 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:

>Opposing heel and toe, along with diagonally opposed arm/hand action,
>allows 'front-on' ladder ascent, with the ability to pull it away from
>the rock at the top and make the ladder-mantle move.
>

The blokes have put "spacers" on the rungs that are near the rock so you don't get your hands caught. Quite nifty.

gfdonc

23-Oct-2009
9:27:19 AM

I think the debate on the relative aesthetics of fixed hangers vs carrots has now become meaningless ...


IdratherbeclimbingM9

23-Oct-2009
9:38:25 AM

On 23/10/2009 widewetandslippery wrote:
>On 22/10/2009 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>
>>Opposing heel and toe, along with diagonally opposed arm/hand action,
>>allows 'front-on' ladder ascent, with the ability to pull it away from
>>the rock at the top and make the ladder-mantle move.
>>
>
>The blokes have put "spacers" on the rungs that are near the rock so you
>don't get your hands caught. Quite nifty.
>
That is just compensation for poor ladder-technique!
;-)

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