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The Official Pissed Off Thread!
One Day Hero
11/09/2009
4:22:38 PM
On 11/09/2009 dalai wrote:
>Also in regards to the footpath. Even though your posts sometimes might
>suggest otherwise, I doubt you are 12 years old or under...
>
>Troll score = T1 only because it got a response
>
I think I deserve at least T2 for getting to you with the masters thing :) Seriously though Dalai, it's not like you're a greybeard! If you can win the national TT, it's time to get the sand out of your vagina and rejoin the real world of open racing.
One Day Hero
11/09/2009
4:26:56 PM
On 11/09/2009 ajfclark wrote:

>I think I'm more agile on my feet than on a bike at the speeds you're
>talking about. I'm intrigued as to how you sidestep on a bike.

Body goes right, handlebars left, magic sidestep follows........I reckon bike brakes are as good as footbrakes too. If you've ever seen anyone step out in front of a jogger the result can be quite amusing.

ajfclark
11/09/2009
4:33:03 PM
On 11/09/2009 One Day Hero wrote:
> If you've ever seen anyone step out in front of a jogger the result can be quite amusing.

Yes, the jogger usually has a chance to catch the person they run into. Whether they are quick enough to take it...
One Day Hero
11/09/2009
4:35:56 PM
On 11/09/2009 ajfclark wrote:
> Whether they are quick enough to take it...

Zigactly! Reflexes and being awake are the key to it, nuthin' at all to do with the mode of transportation.

ajfclark
11/09/2009
4:38:43 PM
So if you clipped someone you'd be able to catch them?
dalai
11/09/2009
4:40:15 PM
T1 - because I intentionally didn't respond to the Masters comment knowing that it wouldn't be relating to anyone else... ;-)

Doubt I'll come close to winning - hate to say the fast old guys still race, they just drag their kids to the races to sit around and look bored... As for deserving to race Masters - I spent the preceding 15 years trying to not have any leg mass, still have my chicken legs compared to those that rode from an early age...


Back on topic -

People call you on it (helmet or footpath etc) when you are out because they feel they have the backing of the law to pass judgement and make comments and feel because of this that you won't retort because they are legally right...

Neither has an impact on me so could care less if you ride without a helmet or on the footpath...

Only if it impacts me do I get annoyed - motorists driving talking on the mobile around me (cars are heavy, big and hurt if you get hit by one). Cyclists running red lights is the one that I get p!ssed off about most. As all cyclists then get grouped together and this action feeds those road rage motorists fuel to call us all those red light running law breaking idiots that shouldn't be on our roads. Being on the road as much as I am now I have had enough aggro, objects thrown, drivers getting out of cars wanting a punch up because we are in their way!
One Day Hero
11/09/2009
4:45:36 PM
On 11/09/2009 ajfclark wrote:
>So if you clipped someone you'd be able to catch them?

Look, if I'm riding on the footpath at 10k's, I'll have my eyes open and will almost certainly avoid a collision (20yrs of doing it and still no pedestrians hit). And if I do clip one at 5k's an hour (will at least have time to get it down to that) I don't think they're going to be seriously hurt.

I've seen a jogger bowl the shit out of a pedestrian. There was no catching, more like landing on top of them......and you know what? everyone was fine. People can be such pussies about a little graze on the knee.
One Day Hero
11/09/2009
5:00:39 PM
On 11/09/2009 dalai wrote:
>T1 - because I intentionally didn't respond to the Masters comment knowing
>that it wouldn't be relating to anyone else... ;-)
>
Bugger! Should have worked it a bit longer before reeling in.

>Back on topic -
>
>People call you on it (helmet or footpath etc) when you are out because
>they feel they have the backing of the law to pass judgement and make comments
>and feel because of this that you won't retort because they are legally
>right...
>
That's probably it. Anyway, joke will be on them when the Giro goes in the tradesmans entrance.

>Neither has an impact on me so could care less if you ride without a helmet
>or on the footpath...
>
>Only if it impacts me do I get annoyed - motorists driving talking on
>the mobile around me (cars are heavy, big and hurt if you get hit by one).
>Cyclists running red lights is the one that I get p!ssed off about most.
>As all cyclists then get grouped together and this action feeds those road
>rage motorists fuel to call us all those red light running law breaking
>idiots that shouldn't be on our roads. Being on the road as much as I am
>now I have had enough aggro, objects thrown, drivers getting out of cars
>wanting a punch up because we are in their way!

So 1) motorists group all cyclists together, and 2) you get shit chucked at you by motorists

And your response is to get mad at other cyclists for doing the wrong thing?!?

I run red lights too, and I don't feel bad at all about how this will impact other cyclists. The sort of people who chuck stuff at you don't need to see me running reds in order to be inspired, they'll take any excuse available. Trying to enforce your code of extra goodliness on other cyclists in an attempt to appease the angry oppressor is a real slave mentality. How about buying a steel pump, and standing up to the people who are the real problem?

nmonteith
11/09/2009
5:21:27 PM
Just wear headphones and not only will you not hear the abuse, you'll piss off the abuser even more as they arn't getting a response!
egosan
11/09/2009
5:31:10 PM
I have to side with ODH on this one. I was given a ticket the other day for running red at
Bourke and Swanston. Never mind that I stopped for the red. Waited untill all the peds
and trams had cleared the intersection. Left early because it was safe and clear.

Meh, if the price I pay for commuting for 4 years in Melbourne is one little ticket. It won't
slow me down at all. The thing that got me was the policy officer who said, "It's cyclists
like you who give us all a bad name." Thanks grandma!

I ride considerately of other cyclist. I treat peds like cows on the open range. (You just
don't know what they are gonna do so you give them wide berth.) I cross intersections
when I am not going to get my ass run over, irrespective of the color of the light. I don't
feel bad about it at all.

I ride with a 5kg chain over my shoulder. My bandoleer of badass. No one chucks shit at
me. If you are repeatedly having these anti-social attacks aimed at you dalai, then may
be the common denominator is you. I certainly don't have issues with irate drivers.


dalai
11/09/2009
10:51:57 PM
On 11/09/2009 One Day Hero wrote:
>The sort of people who chuck stuff at you don't
>need to see me running reds in order to be inspired, they'll take any excuse
>available.

True - but why give them fuel? Would help the cause in the eyes of most motorists if all cyclists followed the law?

Makes no difference to these lovely individuals that many motorists around them are breaking the same laws all the time with far worse consequences, when they can focus on those pesky cyclists who don't pay to be on their roads and break all their rules.

>Trying to enforce your code of extra goodliness on other cyclists
>in an attempt to appease the angry oppressor is a real slave mentality.

I don't enforce, just get p!ssed off. Not sure what chapter of 'Anarchy for Beginners' you are pulling quotes from but it is funny. ;-)

>How about buying a steel pump, and standing up to the people who are the
>real problem?

I've had my face to face 'discussions' with a few motorists over the years, would have liked a steel pump at the time. CO2 canisters don't have quite the same effect...

Maybe I do need a bandoleer of badass Egosan! Would make training rides just that little bit harder though. I probably get exposed to more of our 'friendly' motorists by training through our outer suburbs and into the countryside and not just innercity commuting. Rolling over 15,000+ km a year means there are more opportunity for interactions with these choice members of our society.
daave
12/09/2009
8:36:22 PM
I am Officially Pissed off that a friend and I planned to do Hotel California today but were completely DENIED!

Morning started off completely fine - had camped in the pierces pass carpark in preperation for the early start. Racked up and made the walk to the Mirrorball raps.

The wind on MIrrorball was SUPER strong! I have never climbed in wind so strong! I was fairly apprehensive as to how the rope chucking would go so we chucked them anyway.

After seeing the ropes fly horizontally further than they went vertically, we proceeded to rap down onto the pinnacle. The first rap was slow as there was much rope wrangling to be done but we both eventually made it safely to the midway anchor. We were slightly blessed with a break in the wind for 30 seconds inwhich we managed to pull the ropes for our second abseil.

The wind picked up again as we both made it to the bottom of the second rap. As Reas got off rope, we tried to pull the rope through. It made it freely for 2m after which it decided to get rightfully stuck! The overhands joining the two ends had got completely wedged in the V-groove between the pinnacle and main wall!

Both Reas and I spent 1.5 hours trying everything to get the rope free again - both of our body weights clipped in pulling/bouncing, flicking the ropes, pulling the other end - Nothing worked!

After much swearing we gave up and turned our efforts to the bush bash which lay before us. We had no idea where the path was, but I had a vague idea that one of the gullys must have a path. We ended up bush bashing for about 2 hours until we found a vague path which turned (thankfully) into the path leading up the the carpark.

Now that we were safely back at the car, we only had one problem - our double ropes were still stuck on the 2nd rap!

To cut a long story short, we decided it was too late in the day now to start the hotel at this time of year so we got the single rope from the car, re-rapped in, recovered the ropes (with difficulty I might add - they were well and truly stuck), then climbed back out.

Being completely over the situation, we went to Logan Brae for the afternoon.

Grose Valley - 1
Dave and Reas - 0




wallwombat
12/09/2009
9:19:27 PM
Thats sucks but unfortunately it can happen easily. Good that you got the ropes back.

And, then going to Logan Brae in the afternoon and still having a climb shows a lot of motivation and gumption.

I would have gone to the pub.
deadpoint
13/09/2009
10:41:41 AM
I can sympathize Dave and Reas, have tried 4 times to Climb HC. Been, blow, rain,
snow/sleeted and lightning bolted off. Well pissed off.

ajfclark
13/09/2009
10:50:56 AM
Yeah, stupid nature getting in the way of us enjoying the great outdoors... ;-)

Sarah Gara
13/09/2009
8:51:30 PM
On 12/09/2009 wallwombat wrote:

>I would have gone to the pub.

me too. dedicated guys. x
daave
13/09/2009
9:50:46 PM
On 13/09/2009 deadpoint wrote:
>...have tried 4 times to Climb HC...

How did you guys get off/out of the grose? That same epic slog of a bash?

The way we saw it, we didn't get psyched up all week, drive up, camp, get up early, and go through all that shit not to climb!

I mean, I spose the day did turn out ok, cause I did my first flash of a 25 at logan with Dr. Stein :)


gremlin
13/09/2009
10:39:52 PM
How to spend $500, two days and require a full body transplant for just 6m of progress....

After coming down with glandular fever on our first attempt then getting rained out on our second attempt at a spectacular 200m line up the ridge/arete of an unclimbed pillar. This time we hired a drill, took a day off work to make up a three day weekend and went out with seige tactics in mind.

Walked up and over the mountain then down through a trackless jungle, dragging a full trad rack, a pile of pitons, several ropes, a huge arse drill, several batteries along with other assorted heavy bolting gear. We dragged it all 100m up to our highest belay, pulled out the drill to make a more reasonable anchor only to discover that we'd left the SDS chuck back in the case at the carpark. Fixed the ropes, stashed the gear, went to the pub, drowned our sorrows and ate steak.

The next morning we marched back up and over the mountain with the correct chuck, swapped it over and decided we'd try the next short section that beat us the first time and maybe shift the belay up higher. Did the delicate traverse out left found a stance and balanced with great care, my partner used the said drill to bore a hole into the cliff. Pulled a bolt out of his chalk bag and discovered we'd brought along a 10mm drill bit instead of a 12mm...

After much swearing and blaming everyone besides our own stupidity, a dodgy piton was whacked in, the moves aided with a tension traverse and he scrambled up to our planned belay to find no gear or even the slightest seam in sight. After a brief plummet off the ledge we promptly packed up, walked out through the jungle, back up and over the mountain then dropped dead in the carpark from exhastion.

We awoke at the pub with pints, steak sandwiches, our wallets much lighter and feeling rather PISSED OFF!!!

Sabu
13/09/2009
11:09:04 PM
Officially pissed off my computer is giving my grief with blue screens and such.

I really hate computers sometimes
egosan
13/09/2009
11:43:55 PM
On 13/09/2009 gremlin wrote:
>How to spend $500, two days and require a full body transplant for just
>6m of progress....
>
>After much swearing and blaming everyone besides our own stupidity, a
>dodgy piton was whacked in, the moves aided with a tension traverse and
>he scrambled up to our planned belay to find no gear or even the slightest
>seam in sight. After a brief plummet off the ledge we promptly packed up,
>walked out through the jungle, back up and over the mountain then dropped
>dead in the carpark from exhastion.
>
>We awoke at the pub with pints, steak sandwiches, our wallets much lighter
>and feeling rather PISSED OFF!!!

I that not the reason we climb? Because we don't know if we will get to the top.
Good on you gremlin.

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