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General Climbing Discussion

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bouldering for short-arses

Eduardo Slabofvic
28-Jul-2009
4:11:46 PM
There is a lot of technique involved in riding a bike well, so opportunity would be the limiting factor in becoming pro at cycling.
dalai
28-Jul-2009
4:41:00 PM
Continuing taking this discussion OT. Tour de Faso which is part of the UCI Africa Tour is shown on SBS every year. Club riders from Europe are the usual winners even with the crazy hot and tough conditions.
Wendy
28-Jul-2009
5:23:50 PM
On 28/07/2009 One Day Hero wrote:

>
>I don't want to get into a tit for tat on poverty, but a farm worker in
>france being poor compared to a farm worker in ethiopia? Or anyone in ethiopia
>for that matter?
>

Im not trying to compare them, merely pointing out that disadvantaged people in developed countries have been highly successful participants in cycling, which suggests that it's somehow remarkably accessible. I should also add AFL and indigenous australians to that list.

howzithanging?
28-Jul-2009
6:59:41 PM
I'm pretty sure that riders are picked for the tour not only for there powermeter results but mainly for there ability to recover quickly, lactic threshold, that kind of stuff, so therefore African athletes are not necessarily going to smash all white comers in riding events if given the opportunity.
One Day hero
29-Jul-2009
4:49:02 PM
On 28/07/2009 dalai wrote:
>Continuing taking this discussion OT. Tour de Faso which is part of the
>UCI Africa Tour is shown on SBS every year. Club riders from Europe are
>the usual winners even with the crazy hot and tough conditions.

Sure, guys who race competitively every weekend smashed guys who don't, I would be surprised if they didn't. What I'm saying is do aerobic testing on african kids, put the talented ones through 15yrs of development and competitive racing and I think there won't be white guys on the tour podium anymore.

As an aside, I've heard that many cat2 races in europe are going faster than the cat1's......so the club riders popping down to africa might not be riding any slower than pros

nat
30-Jul-2009
12:37:49 PM
On 24/07/2009 nat wrote:
>This may seem like a silly question to some... But does climbing boulder
>problems (e.g. 1-3metre boulders -real rock... or plastic) more calculated/
>statically/ or "slower" make you gain more 'bulk', or does it make you
>gain more endurance?
>I have a tendancy to climb "slow" but then when needed, dyno/ dead point
>(which is A LOT, as i am a short-ass of 5 foot 4 inches).
>Will I gain more "bulk", (considering the height and dyno factor) rather
>than endurance?
>
>Any thoughts welcome.


So climbing slowly will increase your grip strength, and is good for training, but is an inefficient way to actually climb outdoors because you need a lot of strength and endurance to be able to hold onto these holds for longer..
Makes sense.
And with extra endurance training (like running, riding, swimming etc) to supplement your climbing will make you have better endurance and overall fitness..
Watch others and climb more for better technique.
Also pull down to the waist for us shorter peeps
(and just for the record I have no qualms about my height, or short people, just trying to make do with what I have and learn from others)

thanks to all the peeps who posted constructive feedback...
One Day Hero
30-Jul-2009
1:47:28 PM
Keep it specific though, Nat. Smashing out 20 medium difficulty pitches (grades you can do all day but still have to grunt a bit) on a training day will do far more for your climbing endurance than masses of bike, run, swim.

Much quoted and much ignored advice from popular training book "the time to start training for climbing is when you cease making gains from climbing alone".........unfortunately 5 days a week on rock is a little beyond mosts peoples means, so training is an unfortunate reality.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
30-Jul-2009
3:18:39 PM
HB Malcolm Matheson comments on training (from Chockstone interview)

>Chockstone: Still on training, can you think of any tips for young players?

HB: I think there’s so much information on training these days I’m not sure I could particularly add to it.

>Chockstone: Well, what’s worked for you?

HB: Oh, I think that training is good for helping to make you more robust against injury. Apart from my shoulder I haven’t had any injuries at all. I never focused much on my legs, because my legs were pretty strong anyway, and I didn’t want to build too much muscle weight or mass in my legs. But I think if you’ve got skinny legs, doing some leg work is important, especially if you’re going to be using your feet really well. But I think generally in the upper body, I think just beefing everything up a bit more so you’re more resilient against injury is really quite beneficial in terms of holding your joints together.

>Chockstone: So, the idea of working opposing muscles you don’t work when climbing?

HB: Yeah, exactly. I know a lot of people have problems with shoulders and stuff, and I think that can be helped a lot by increasing general shoulder strength and building a bit of mass around there to just keep everything in place. I mean, this is a theory of mine, but I think that the weight training has helped me in that respect and just given me a really good power base. But by the same token you don’t want to be building too much muscle mass otherwise you’re just going to get too heavy.




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