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OT: Skeptics vs Alarmist Cage Match unSpectacular!
Lurking Dave
3-Feb-2010
3:43:33 PM
Tony, great to have you back - I remain impressed at the determination, perseverance and single mindedness that you have shown. Your arguments are spurious, evidence non-existent and references bizarre - but you do remind me of the importance to get off my arse and make sure that simple minded people don't get things all their own way. Thanks :-)

Cheers
LD

ajfclark
3-Feb-2010
3:58:02 PM
On 3/02/2010 billk wrote:
>OK I will retract my last claim and go and take a closer look at this.

I was pretending to be an asshat. Earlier post has been edited to try and clarify this.

evanbb
3-Feb-2010
3:59:30 PM
On 3/02/2010 ajfclark wrote:
>On 3/02/2010 billk wrote:
>>OK I will retract my last claim and go and take a closer look at this.
>
>I was pretending to be an asshat. Earlier post has been edited to try
>and clarify this.

You were engaged in arse-hattery.

wombly
3-Feb-2010
4:53:05 PM
Transcript from the 7:30 report, about the new coalition climate policy:

KERRY O’BRIEN: Malcolm Turnbull still is not convinced, he told the partyroom that your plan is not credible, and your plan, for instance, your plan to...

TONY ABBOTT: I think he said, he was talking about the long term.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2808321.htm
Wendy
3-Feb-2010
6:49:14 PM
On 3/02/2010 TonyB wrote:
> Now Pachauri,
-snip- has also been very busy getting of
>late, getting his sex novel published ( no, I'm not kidding ).
>
>
Aha, Tony, now I understand - this novel is so hot it's leading to global warming
Dave C
6-Feb-2010
9:02:47 PM
WTF is anybody doing paying any attention to this prat Monkton. Before you give him any credence try reading this rather well researched & written demolition job on the man and his ludicrous claims by Mike Carlton in The Age:

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/debunking-the-myths-behind-the-pontificating-potty-peer-20100205-nikc.html

Honestly, I despair at supposedly intelligent people in the media giving air-time to this inbred little charlatan (I'd expect nothing better from the likes of the Hun or the commercial "current affairs" programmes.)

billk
18-Mar-2010
2:25:40 PM
Melbourne has just had its 100th day in a row with a daily maximum in excess of 20C. This has never happened before.

evanbb
23-Mar-2010
7:34:24 AM
On 18/03/2010 billk wrote:
>Melbourne has just had its 100th day in a row with a daily maximum in excess
>of 20C. This has never happened before.

Wow, that's a compelling statistic. Last time I was in Melbourne there was record breaking rain and hail as well.

I haven't had a chance to read this yet but CSIRO's most recent report is pretty solid as well:
http://www.climatechangeinaustralia.gov.au/

evanbb
14-Apr-2010
9:04:46 AM
Something slightly off even this broad topic.

I've been researching nuclear fusion recently and looking at the technical limitations. I've put it all together in a blog post, with lots of layman's background:

Why I don't think nuclear fusion will ever work

IdratherbeclimbingM9
20-Jul-2010
2:18:07 PM
OT: Moorabal/Lal Lal wind farm

On 25/08/2009 evanbb wrote:
>On 25/08/2009 oweng wrote:
>>This article was in this weekends Australian. It talks about noise (not
>>just audible noise issues) that some local residents claim is an issue.
>>
>>http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25964195-5006785,00.html
>>
>>Im just posting this as it was an interesting article and I think its
>>relevent to the posts above. Not trying to make any points!
>
>The infrasound is interesting. I've heard a theory that it's the cause
>of jetlag. IE, the very low frequency noise of the engine stuffs your body
>systems in some way. I've heard of bogans at car shows getting similar
>symptoms to jet lag, while at loud car stereo competitions.
>
>I've also heard a theory that the cause of jet lag is that your soul can
>only travel as fast as a camel, and you won't feel better until it arrives.
>Not sure which theory I like better.

Anyone got a camel?
I am suffering jetlag with the polispeak re renewable energy promises in the current election climate!
Heh, heh, heh.

evanbb
21-Jul-2010
7:45:42 AM
Are you fishing to see if I'm still around M9?

I got burnt pretty badly at work commenting on some of this stuff. Wrote a comment that was picked up by Crikey, then run with my job title. BIG PROBLEM. Apparently the Minister was personally unhappy with me. So, I've got all sorts of problems with renewable energy policy, but I can't share them.

One thing I will say is that any announcement that does not involve a price on carbon will only ever be a stop gap for renewables and energy in general. Plenty of research supports this idea.

I only found this because my blog got a spike in views yesterday, because of that link up the page. Hilarious.

I've also not tied in since February, so been a bit reluctant to show my face around here. DM me if you want an off the record opinion.

EB

lacto
21-Jul-2010
10:23:24 AM
the 1kw pv system on my mother inlaws will be fully paid back within 12 months maybe 9 if they hurry up with upping the feedback from 23.5 to 66 cents . Our 5 kw system (1kw private use 4kw business ) will have the private portion paid off by next june and the business in about 5 years .The first 12 months were on 23.5 cents feed back but since december on 66 cents . Since put in we have bought 50000kwh ,produced 12000kwhs of which 4800kwhs were fed back . our system cost $36000 and could now be done for between $18 and 19 thousand . paybacks would only be a few years . Metering and connection to the grid now cost $212 pa then you add power ! Smart meters will also increase consumption costs as peak will increase greatly in price

evanbb
21-Jul-2010
11:05:12 AM
Lacto,

Not sure that smart meters necessarily imply Time-Of-Use metering charges will be applied. Sure, they will allow those charges to be calculated, but I'm not aware of any proposals to meter residential customers in this way, it would be very complex for a retailer to manage. It would also be grossly unpopular.

None of this means that I don't think it's a good idea either.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
21-Jul-2010
8:15:28 PM
On 21/07/2010 evanbb wrote:
>Are you fishing to see if I'm still around M9?
>
I had noticed your absence, and now that you have elaborated, I am saddened by the cause.
The internet is an insidious beast and nothing is sacred.
If work is a particular problem you can always reincarnate your user ID as others before you have done...

Chuck Norris
16-Nov-2010
9:10:28 PM
Just when you thought it all over...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-global-warming-issue-from-2-or-3-years-ago,18431/?utm_source=recentnews
kieranl
16-Nov-2010
10:11:35 PM
And on Wednesday 17th November you can hear Naomi Oreskes, author of Merchants of Doubt : How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming. 5:45-7 pm State Library of Victoria, Melbourne.
For some background try The Age, Saturday 13 November (p10 of Insight section)
TonyB
18-Nov-2010
7:20:35 AM
Fortunately the world is at last coming to its senses about the global warming scam. The startling revelations of Climategate were the last nail in its coffin. US, Canada and France have opted out of Cancun later this month, where an international climate-change deal is supposed to be attempted. China and India were out in any practical sense long ago. The Chicago Climate Exchange is also dead after the price of carbon fell to zero.

However, Australia and NZ remain the home of green stupidity. Hopefully Labor will come to its senses, forget about new taxes and get the focus back to real issues such as Oz being the world leader in species loss, or the continuing massive destruction of native bushland. Of course new taxes are much easier for pollies and our masses were even stupid enough to elect a government because they promised a new tax (GST).

evanbb
18-Nov-2010
7:45:51 AM
Tremendous contribution Tony, classic of the genre.

You left out the bit about how Prince Phillip is the head of an anti-humanist world wide organisation, but otherwise you touched all the key Citizens Electoral Council
talking points.

ajfclark
18-Nov-2010
8:31:44 AM
You know that by linking to them you've moved them higher in Google's page rankings?

Butters81
18-Nov-2010
8:32:17 AM
Is that website a pisstake?
Because they have written some very funny things

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