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General Climbing Discussion

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lets talk about lost gear,... now also booty found
tastybigmac
30/04/2004
5:40:36 PM
yep, i havn't heared anything about mine. you can only hope that the new "owner" gets some horrid foot disease from them.

Superstu
3/05/2004
7:08:33 PM
there used to be a lost & found box for gear at the nati climbing shop... dunno if its still there, maybe attitudes have changed in recent years


IdratherbeclimbingM9
25/10/2004
1:57:46 PM
On 24 Oct '04 a party of two completed Ozymandias Direct, (well done JA & RC on your 2 day ascent); along the way they scored booty, ... as the wall above them had quite a few slings with krabs attached and even a 5 step etrier was left at the start of the main roof ...
This message is to the original owners to inform them that its all gone now.
julian.A
27/10/2004
11:42:49 AM
Yeh thanks A5.

We did a bit of community service and cleaned up other peoples mess. I think the tally was 6 biners, four wires, and the etriers, and about a Kg of old slings and tie-offs that wern't serving any purpose . We also found about 20m of rope on the rap in, (which Rich used yesterday to fell some trees with).

Last month a few friends came up to the Blueys. They put draws on Jaws, and Rubber Lover at Wave Wall. At the end of the day they left the draws on, planning on returning first thing the next morning. When they got back a few draws few missing off each route, the theaves had left the old draws and taken the shiny new Petzl ones .



Breezy
28/10/2004
2:34:26 PM
On 27/10/2004 julian.A wrote:
>Last month a few friends came up to the Blueys. They put draws on Jaws,
>and Rubber Lover at Wave Wall. At the end of the day they left the draws
>on, planning on returning first thing the next morning. When they got back
>a few draws few missing off each route, the theaves had left the old draws
>and taken the shiny new Petzl ones .


Thats pretty lame, if your working a sport route its quite obvious and to the person who took there gear - YOU SUCK big time.
To me its quite obvious when gear is left because someone is working a roue. There is usually the lower off draws in which is quite a give away.
dave
28/10/2004
8:49:37 PM
When i was at Araps recently i left some draws on the flight deck planing to come and get them the next day.
Went back the next morning alone just to check that they were still there only to find that i had managed to leave a whole lot of wires and a quickdraw sitting neatly on the ground at the bottom of the climb. Others had definately been there in between! I was amazed that they had kindly left this obviously LOST gear, as well as the draws on the climb as you would hope they would.

Just shows that not everyone out there is that stingy!
joemor
28/10/2004
8:52:30 PM
that was alrob and crew.... that is the ones that left the wires there
dave
28/10/2004
8:54:38 PM
How nice of them!

i couldnt belive it when i saw that my gear was still there- i hadnt even realised i'd lost it so maybe they should have taken it

Thanks Al!

Pei
29/10/2004
6:19:11 PM
On 28/10/2004 dave wrote:
>When i was at Araps recently i left some draws on the flight deck planing
>to come and get them the next day.
>Went back the next morning alone just to check that they were still there
>only to find that i had managed to leave a whole lot of wires and a quickdraw
>sitting neatly on the ground at the bottom of the climb. Others had definately
>been there in between! I was amazed that they had kindly left this obviously
>LOST gear, as well as the draws on the climb as you would hope they would.

So you were the one who left that stuff up there! Glad you got it back - we thought that the next party to come along would probably booty it... Was wondering why you left two draws on the route? Why not just back climb and take them off?
dave
31/10/2004
7:07:51 PM
Welllll. The only person with us who wanted to climb the route seemed to think it was impossible to downclimb/downjump?! so we left them there hoping someone else in the party would finish the climb...
Actually your question has just made me think DOH! how stupid am i
Onsight
1/11/2004
6:07:48 PM
On 27/10/2004 julian.A wrote:
>Last month a few friends came up to the Blueys. They put draws on Jaws,
>and Rubber Lover at Wave Wall. At the end of the day they left the draws
>on, planning on returning first thing the next morning. When they got back
>a few draws few missing off each route, the theaves had left the old draws
>and taken the shiny new Petzl ones .

Interesting... a few weeks back (between 3 to 5 Oct) a draw I left on Tsunami was stolen, meanwhile Monique's on Staring at the Sea were left alone...

dan
5/11/2004
8:30:24 AM
Anyone on their way to Pilot this weekend (not that likely I know) look out at the top of Wissywoo for a CAMP nut tool (with ruberised handle), Nadia believes she left it up there.

Ad by mere mentioning it to you, you are now ethically bound to give it back if you find it ;).

Dan
WM
7/02/2005
12:06:29 PM
Ok so here's the dilemma:
I scored a booty cam on the weekend. I know who left it there, and he's already bought a replacement. At the time he only had limited time to retrieve it due to 'encouragement' to hurry the $%^$ up so we could have our ropes back to go climb something else. But OTOH it only took me 5 seconds to get out, so it must be said that it was a pretty lame cleaning effort originally! :)

Does he deserve it back!?

shaggy
7/02/2005
12:10:44 PM
In my opinion, if he was willing to walk away from it, it become legitimate booty, it is unfortunate that you know him. It's also unfortunate that he's freinds are dicks, and wouldn't let him work on it. But at end of day......Booty

nmonteith
7/02/2005
1:11:04 PM
Will, you new route was the reason we encouraged him to hurry up and abandon the gear! It sounds like 50/50 to me! Maybe sell it to him for $50 or something.

Mike TS
7/02/2005
2:20:32 PM
On 7/02/2005 WM wrote:
>Ok so here's the dilemma:
>I scored a booty cam on the weekend. I know who left it there, and he's
>already bought a replacement. At the time he only had limited time to
>retrieve it due to 'encouragement' to hurry the $%^$ up so we could have
>our ropes back to go climb something else. But OTOH it only took me 5 seconds
>to get out, so it must be said that it was a pretty lame cleaning effort
>originally! :)
>
>Does he deserve it back!?

My granny taught me that a general ethical rule in life is that if you know the owner you're obliged to try and return it. If you don't, you're obliged to try & find out (post info on shop or Chockstone message board) If it is not then asked for back, it's abandoned & you can become the new owner.

Mike TS
7/02/2005
2:23:16 PM
To continue, the lost/stolen thread currently running is a perfect example of this ethic.
Wendy
7/02/2005
2:36:38 PM
I've always found beer does wonders in facilitating the return of gear. If I find/rescue gear and know/find the owner, I reckon a few beers is a fair exhcange. What comes around, goes around.

sabu
7/02/2005
2:56:05 PM
my friend left a full set of RP's on the ground at North Jawbones in the Catherials. he (as u can imagine) was very pissed off. *nudge* if anyone by chance has them he'd really like them back! More on topic. gear left on a climb, is booty because it was decided to be left behind for wat ever reason, the question is when gear unintentionally left behind like my friends, do u take it or leave for when they come back or for the next person (who mite not be as generous) who passes by? If you saw a set of nuts all alone on a rock with no-one behind would u take it? i know i would condsider it!! whether the guilt of taking it would cause me to find the owner i dunno....

Mike TS
7/02/2005
3:40:21 PM
I think my granny would have said that the ethic requires compensation of the time & effort invested by the person returning the item. But that's an ethical requirement of the now-happy owner, not the person doing the returning - they cannot keep the items "hostage" against satisfactory compensation.

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