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Fishing spots at Gramps and Araps


IdratherbeclimbingM9

10-Dec-2008
10:53:41 AM

On 10/12/2008 nmonteith wrote:
>Call me the devil's advocate... but...
>
>Why is it socially acceptable to kill animals in the wild when they are
>a fish? I've never quite 'got' the concept of fishing in National Parks.

& (later)

>I just find it wierd that you can't catch kangaroos, lizards or birds - but fish are ok?

I guess that is why some people go vegetarian?

Killing for use is one thing; ... but even in this there are many incompetent practitioners.

Unnecessary cruelty is much more abhorrent in my opinion. A fish ‘suffocating’ out of water is not quite the same as being skinned alive ... ?

If anyone wants a cause to get stuck into, then you could do worse than this one regarding the chinese fur trade*.

[*WARNING: The link is ok to access (goes to People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - PETA**), BUT if you follow the sub link from that site there is extreme cruelty involved in the associated video, and you are likely to be disturbed].

[**PETA site gives options for taking action without having to view the gore].


tnd

10-Dec-2008
1:04:58 PM

On 10/12/2008 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Lots of people want a cotton wool view of the world and fish somehow don't
>rank as high as a sharp clawed smelly koala bear.

A koala is a marsupial not a bear.

widewetandslippery

10-Dec-2008
1:25:21 PM

On 10/12/2008 tnd wrote:
>
>A koala is a marsupial not a bear.
Pedant!:)

My badly worded point is that lots of peoples actions in killing and eating animals is hypocritical. I can live with that but its something to be aware of.

I kill and eat fish in national parks and otherwise. I would kill (only ever killed ones with a car) and do eat 'roo from outside national parks but would not condone "game" hunting in national parks and probally wouldn't or couldn't bring myself to terminate a koala or a bear for that matter.

audtracol

10-Dec-2008
2:37:24 PM

I thnik it's the same deal in the marine parks, can't take the fish but if you find a kangaroo you can take it. Go figure

widewetandslippery

10-Dec-2008
2:39:35 PM

Imagine landing a roo on light tackle! Thats a sport.

climberman

10-Dec-2008
3:42:33 PM

Man, I'm trying to work out what sort of grass fly I could cast to one. Prolly a Kangaroos Grassfly, 10/0, on a 13 weight.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

10-Dec-2008
3:55:25 PM

On 10/12/2008 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Imagine landing a roo on light tackle! Thats a sport.

Luxury!
Why when I were a lad we us'ta jist 'neak up all quiet-like an tickle their tummies so's they'd roll over to be picked up!

... If you want real sport; try tying one of these onto your line as live bait!

tastybigmac

10-Dec-2008
9:01:09 PM

here is a photo i took at dec crag back in '06


IdratherbeclimbingM9

10-Dec-2008
9:12:02 PM

Excellent!
They are much more spectacular in real life than on a weblink aren't they!
I have seen these around the Goulburn area (NSW) as well as Arapiles (Vic).
Thanks for posting it.
(It will bring back vivid memories for WW&S too).
;-)

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Post edit:
They can move pretty quickly. Presumably you had a 'distractor' happening, to get that shot up so close?


Cookie

11-Dec-2008
1:13:03 PM

jeebuz effing crikest... what the hell is that thing?? eugh. and just how many of these things are near crags?

sbright

11-Dec-2008
1:24:40 PM

That thingy looks nasty. I really shouldn't wander down descent routes in bare feet...


Phil Box

11-Dec-2008
1:34:57 PM

I've heard of the locals up this way tieing budgies onto the line as live bait for big cod. Works a treat or so I am told. Anything that will make a fuss on top of the water will attract a big cod.

I've used a fairly big live yellow belly as bait and caught a huge cod, 28 pound from memory. Biggest cod I've caught is 35 pound and a metre long. Tasty eating too, they all taste the same no matter how big they get unlike yellow belly, they taste like mud. I caught a prehistoricly huge yellow belly once, tasted like crap.


Cookie

11-Dec-2008
5:06:05 PM

>I've heard of the locals up this way tieing budgies onto the line as live
>bait for big cod. Works a treat or so I am told. Anything that will make
>a fuss on top of the water will attract a big cod.

i dont think i could do that to a budgie :(

>I've used a fairly big live yellow belly as bait and caught a huge cod,
>28 pound from memory. Biggest cod I've caught is 35 pound and a metre long.
>Tasty eating too, they all taste the same no matter how big they get unlike
>yellow belly, they taste like mud. I caught a prehistoricly huge yellow
>belly once, tasted like crap.

hrm, so smaller = sweeter with golden perch? perhaps i should just go for the cod, i'd be tickled pink to catch a metre long anything!

tastybigmac

11-Dec-2008
6:10:58 PM

i followed the little bastard for about 20 meters and took alot of photos. i still want to get some good photos of one of the big centipedes. they are awesome. i was using a canon s70 then. they don't like being dropped onto rocks.

and i don't know how these little guys get into everything


MrsM10iswhereitsat.

12-Dec-2008
10:07:24 AM

Dearie me Mr tastybigmac, you do use interesting bait, but I suppose it isn't too hard if you have all the right equipment? It reminds me of this interesting fishing story I heard once.

Never Argue with a Woman.

One morning, the husband returns after several hours of fishing and decides to take a nap. Although not familiar with the lake where her husband has been angling, the wife decides to take his boat out. She motors out a short distance, anchors and reads her book.
Along comes a Game Warden in his boat. He pulls up alongside the woman and says, 'Good morning, Ma'am. May I ask what you are doing?'
'Reading a book,' she replies, (thinking, 'Isn't that obvious?')
'You're in a Restricted Fishing Area,' he informs her
'I'm sorry, officer, but I'm not fishing. I'm reading'
'Yes, but you have all the equipment. For all I know you could start at any moment. I'll have to take you in and write you up.'
'For reading a book?' she replies,
'You're in a Restricted Fishing Area,' he informs her again,
'I'm sorry, officer, but I'm not fishing. I'm reading'
'Yes, but you have all the equipment. For all I know, you could start at any moment. I'll have to take you in and write you up.'
'If you do that, I'll have to charge you with Sexual Assault,' says the woman.
'But I haven't even touched you,' says the game warden.
'That's true, but you have all the equipment. For all I know you could start at any moment.'
'Have a nice day ma'am,' and he left.
MORAL: Never argue with a woman who reads. It's likely she can also think.


Paulie

15-Dec-2008
10:06:32 AM

On 10/12/2008 Cookie wrote:
>nice! thanks.
>
>i've never eaten Yellowbelly, any good? or is it more of a sport fish,
>catch/release type scenario? i'm not too keen on trout, not even rainbow
>trout, but will eat it if i dont catch anything else :P.

A good tip is to catch some yabbies for bait, then when you catch a Yella, throw it away and eat the bait ;)


Paulie

15-Dec-2008
10:10:51 AM

On 10/12/2008 nmonteith wrote:
>I just find it wierd that you can't catch kangaroos, lizards or birds -
>but fish are ok?

In the city I guess you wouldn't have too many folks out hunting native wildlife, but out here I have a good friend who regularly turns out a good wallaby chilli con carne, while other mates love a good feed of duck or quail freshly shot from the farm.


Cookie

15-Dec-2008
1:22:38 PM

mmmmm duck... mmmm quail!! oh dear, both cute and tasty... there is nothing quite like roast duck, with potatoes roasted in the same pan, all that duck fat fries them up beautifully.

and i wonder why i cant shake the kilos.

hero

15-Dec-2008
3:02:56 PM

Best fishing spot: Chockstone :)


Icarus

15-Dec-2008
4:16:26 PM

But trolling seems to be the only way to get a bite!

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