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Food being stolen at Araps


tnd

20-Nov-2008
1:07:47 PM

On 20/11/2008 orwell wrote:
>...Wallowing in negatives? No you're right, we shouldn't have perspective,
>let's just be smug and happy.

Yeah that's right, we shouldn't be thinking about those deprived third-world people should we, I mean, the poor will always be with us, right? Let's keep those blinkers on.


howzithanging?

20-Nov-2008
10:30:34 PM

bludge if you want to bludge work if you want to work!
i personally have a lot of restepa for the people doing long stints with or without welfare, the system works.
dont bitch about real climbers, when you wake up every morning have a shower, sip on a latte have toast for breakfeast, work, maybe go for a bit of indoor (if you can be f**ked) come home get bottle of red eat a steak! luxury!
get out there and do it. if you love climbing that much its worth the sacrifice

Winston Smith

21-Nov-2008
8:33:50 AM

On 20/11/2008 howzithanging? wrote:
>bludge if you want to bludge work if you want to work!
>i personally have a lot of restepa for the people doing long stints with
>or without welfare, the system works.
>dont bitch about real climbers, when you wake up every morning have a
>shower, sip on a latte have toast for breakfeast, work, maybe go for a
>bit of indoor (if you can be f**ked) come home get bottle of red eat a
>steak! luxury!
>get out there and do it. if you love climbing that much its worth the
>sacrifice

"Real climbers", such as yourself?

Get a grip.

So "real climbers" are only dirtbaggers? You might want to have a chat with "fake" climbers like Mikl Law, and mountaineer Andrew Lock - to name but two - who manage to fit in a grown-up life of working and commitments with real achievements on rock and ice.

Also I infer from your comments that "real climbers" have to be teetotalling - or perhaps only drink beer- unwashed vegans who never use indoor gyms or drink coffee or eat toast. Hell mate, I dunno who you're idolising here but he/she sounds like one sad, smelly, underfed sadsack. It's no wonder that they're bed-bound, unlike "fake" climbers like me who "wake up every morning".


JimboV10

21-Nov-2008
8:40:18 AM

On 20/11/2008 surfinclimb wrote:
>On 20/11/2008 JimboV10 wrote:
>
>>MOOCHING OFF WELFARE - Not cool. If your a student/unemployed for a reason/disabled/indi
>nous or whatever thats fine, welfare is there for you.
>
>Hey Jimbo why is it cool to mooch off of welfare if your indigenous(Aboriginal
>or Torres strait islander) but its not cool for the rest of us non indigenous
>Australians to do the same thing??
>(Disclaimer) I'm not a moocher but believe in the system when operated
>fairly.

Yeah good point. D.Lodge almost took my head off when i said on the weekend that "the majority of aboriginals are just lazy welfare mooches"... which is a valid point in some respects. Especially when you look at the likes of aboriginal artists, actors or football players...

Having come I guess from a slightly disadvantaged background (family of 5 living in a caravan on our nana's farm for a few years, and paying her rent) and now being in a relatively successful position, my view is of comtempt for people not "doing it on their own"


westie

21-Nov-2008
10:00:36 AM

On 20/11/2008 howzithanging? wrote:

>i personally have a lot of restepa for the people doing long stints with
>or without welfare, the system works.

so which camp are you in?

>dont bitch about real climbers, when you wake up every morning have a
>shower, sip on a latte have toast for breakfeast, work, maybe go for a
>bit of indoor (if you can be f**ked) come home get bottle of red eat a
>steak! luxury!
>get out there and do it. if you love climbing that much its worth the
>sacrifice

Gosh. I remember when life was that black and white. You'll understand when you're older sonny. There's a whole world out there. Don't be so myopic.

For the record, I'm a part time climber. When I make time for it - I push it. I lead at my limit pretty much every time. And this approach serves me well in life. I wake up next to a beautiful woman. I eat whatever the hell I want when I get up. For most of the week I work with great people in an organisation that is doing important work for less fortunate people around the world. I train indoors so I'm better outdoors. Good shiraz beats beer in the pines any time (though I enjoy both). Steak - take it or leave it. Food is the one true love for many poeple and if you can cook you'll understand why. From all of us out there living life in all sorts of ways (and I'll bet this includes most armchair critics like yourself) lose the chip on your shoulder and you'll enjoy life and climbing a whole lot more. Life will put a chip on the other shoulder - if you insist.


muki

21-Nov-2008
8:11:43 PM

On 21/11/2008 orwell wrote:

>"Real climbers", such as yourself?
>Get a grip.

>So "real climbers" are only dirtbaggers? You might want to have a chat
>with "fake" climbers like Mikl Law,
snip
Mike is the central figure in quite an entertaining story: he is noticed by two visiting climbers in the
pines, his legs protruding from a wheely bin, covered in filth he emerges, wipes himself down and asks
if they want to go climbing? this was when he was on an extended government funded stay of the piles

>Also I infer from your comments that "real climbers" have to be
snip
>unlike "fake" climbers like me who
snip
such polarity, the "we" and "them" game is really ripping the climbing community apart !
try and think of all the other climbers as fellow brethren of the stone, this will let you get over your
judgemental us and them ways of thinking.

21-Nov-2008
8:44:22 PM

I think it's funny how climbers need to distinguish themselves as this and that. I'm a boulderer, soulclimber, redpointer, trad climber, trainer, new router, badger.

It's like high school all over again... with slightly less acne and deodorant.


muki

21-Nov-2008
8:46:11 PM

Yeah I agree KP, pretty juvenile really !


Capt_mulch

21-Nov-2008
8:57:31 PM

On 21/11/2008 bomber pro wrote:
>Mike is the central figure in quite an entertaining story: he is noticed
>by two visiting climbers in the
>pines, his legs protruding from a wheely bin, covered in filth he emerges,
>wipes himself down and asks
>if they want to go climbing? this was when he was on an extended government
>funded stay of the pines
What I want to know is: what was he doing in the wheely bin - eating or sleeping??


wallwombat

21-Nov-2008
9:25:44 PM

On 20/11/2008 nmonteith wrote:
> As soon as I'm on holidays I become feral pretty quickly, and could be mistaken for a >neo-hippy!

I don't have to be on holidays. I turn feral the moment I finish work.

lacto

21-Nov-2008
9:36:50 PM

On 21/11/2008 Capt_mulch wrote:
>What I want to know is: what was he doing in the wheely bin - eating or
>sleeping??

looking for the hex someboby supposedly threw in ?????


Sabu

21-Nov-2008
10:56:13 PM

On 21/11/2008 bomber pro wrote:
>Yeah I agree KP, pretty juvenile really !
pfft old farts.. even your avatar has gray hair!

but seriously you lot do have a point: too much deodorant sucks. :D


muki

21-Nov-2008
11:11:55 PM

On 21/11/2008 Sabu wrote:

>pfft old farts.. even your avatar has gray hair!
>but seriously you lot do have a point: too much deodorant sucks. :D

My avatar looks much younger than yours Jimmy! and as for deodorant ? what's that?
Is that the stuff you teenagers are slathering all over yourselves in the faint hope of picking up?
I've seen photos, unless it's 98% male pheromone, I'd say you've got a snowballs hope in the wimmera.
:O


howzithanging?

22-Nov-2008
7:28:27 AM

dude i wish i was a real climber, i have a lot of respect for those living the dream (goverment climbing grant) it takes a lot of effort to be that lazy.

>"fake" climbers like Mikl Law
i'm fairly sure mike law lived in the pines for at least a few years (back when he was good), before he got too old to do real climbing anymore...

but whats that got to do with the price of fish in china?

>grown-up life of working and commitments with real achievements on rock and ice.

welll i'm glad that mike law and andrew lock manage to fit this in
WHAT THE FU*K HAPPENED TO YOU?


howzithanging?

22-Nov-2008
7:43:40 AM

On 21/11/2008 westie wrote:
> From all of us out there living life in all sorts of ways (and I'll bet this includes most armchair critics like yourself) lose the chip on your shoulder and you'll enjoy life and climbing a whole lot more. Life will put a chip on the other shoulder - if you insist.

settle down old timer you dont want to get to worked up about that horrible prediciment you have got yourself into, dont worry though there is still hope, i advise you to quit your job, probably lose the beautiful woman (unless she is a climber), and move down to the pines.
the pension is just around the corner so it will only be a few years doing it tough. then you should be sweet.
by the way, i would take a beer at the pines over a nice bottle of shiraz (although i do enjoy both) anytime!


wallwombat

22-Nov-2008
9:26:36 AM

That thief is responsible for a lot more than stealing food. This thread is turning feral !

I love it!


wallwombat

22-Nov-2008
10:00:54 AM

It seems to me that climbers are a lot like other members of society.

Some work, some don't. Some are on welfare, some aren't. Some steal things, some don't steal things. Some smoke pot and some don't. Some like goon and some like dandelion tea. Some like both (although I am yet to meet them). Some think their shit doesn't stink and some have no such preconception. I could go on but I won't.

There is nothing particularly special about this climbing thing we do. It's just another thing people do - no different to ping-pong, reading Mills and Boon novels, parkour or making really bad electronic music. It's just a past time and a rather selfish one at that.

Living in the dust at The Pines does not make you some kind of zen mystic and having a full time job doesn't make you the back bone of society. They are simply the choices we make.

We are all different and so is everyone else.

A twenty year old person isn't going to think like a thirty year old person, who is not going to think like a fifty year old person. Well, not until they get there, that is.

I am forty now. I kid myself that I remember what it was like to be twenty. I don't. I remember a lot of the things that I did when I was twenty but I don't remember how I felt or how I thought when I was twenty. I don't remember what it was like to BE twenty.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is WHO CARES.

We may be climbers but that doesn't set us apart from society and society is very, very diverse and members of society are constantly doing things that other members of society either disagree with or do not understand. This has always been the way and always will be. Better get used to it.

Hell! Some people dig climbing on plastic and I'll never get into that gig!

That said, getting back to the topic, DON"T STEAL SHIT! IT"S NOT COOL!


tnd

23-Nov-2008
5:45:31 PM

Fair points WW, and lyrically written.


Cookie

24-Nov-2008
11:59:15 AM

On 21/11/2008 bomber pro wrote:
>On 21/11/2008 Sabu wrote:
>
>>pfft old farts.. even your avatar has gray hair!
>>but seriously you lot do have a point: too much deodorant sucks. :D
>
>My avatar looks much younger than yours Jimmy! and as for deodorant ?
>what's that?
>Is that the stuff you teenagers are slathering all over yourselves in
>the faint hope of picking up?
>I've seen photos, unless it's 98% male pheromone, I'd say you've got a
>snowballs hope in the wimmera.
>:O

this should be a warning to all you over-lynxers (goodness knows why you would use it anyway *makes gagging noises*)

Lynx Deoderant Kills 12 Year old boy

Winston Smith

24-Nov-2008
12:38:06 PM

On 22/11/2008 howzithanging? wrote:
>dude i wish i was a real climber, i have a lot of respect for those living
>the dream (goverment climbing grant) it takes a lot of effort to be that
>lazy.
>
>>"fake" climbers like Mikl Law
>i'm fairly sure mike law lived in the pines for at least a few years (back
>when he was good), before he got too old to do real climbing anymore...
>
>
>but whats that got to do with the price of fish in china?
>
>>grown-up life of working and commitments with real achievements on rock
>and ice.
>
>welll i'm glad that mike law and andrew lock manage to fit this in
>WHAT THE FU*K HAPPENED TO YOU?
>

Mate, grow up.

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