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Food being stolen at Araps


tnd

19-Nov-2008
2:57:10 PM

On 19/11/2008 Cath wrote:
>...Yep, there was a sign up last weekend at the Pines toilet block asking
>for food donations. No problem with that, as others get to choose if they
>want to donate their spare food, versus having it taken!

I have a problem with that. Climbing is a f*cking hobby, not a vocation! If they're fit enough to climb they're fit enough to go and get a job and stop being a parasite.


nmonteith

19-Nov-2008
3:00:26 PM

I have no problem with doing it - and have done it many times in the past! You are usually eating either a) something that has already been thrown in the bin or b) something that is about to be thrown in the bin. It's the ultimate waste not want no philosophy and the way the world should really work. Throwing perfectly good food in the bin because you are either too full, too lazy or just too wealthy is crazy!


tnd

19-Nov-2008
3:09:23 PM

I don't throw food out. I take it home and eat it myself. If I'm going to dispense charity I'm going to give to people who have no control over the needy situation they are in. Not middle-class Australian boys and girls who think they are living some alternative lifestyle.


nmonteith

19-Nov-2008
3:13:38 PM

The food we used to live on was the food that others (including the local supermarket) had already turfed. I don't think anyone is actively being a pest by begging, they are just offering to dispose of waste in the best possible way. Not everyone has to live the 9-5 dream.

Duncan

19-Nov-2008
3:18:34 PM

On 19/11/2008 kev wrote:
>That's pretty ordinary. Up to this point, as a relative noob to climbing
>and Araps, I was under the impression that there was an unspoken rule amongst
>climbers that we respect each others property, whether it be at the crag
>or at the Pines.

Stealing from ANYONE is lame, not just stealing from other climbers. If whoever is doing this is caught then they should be named and shamed, tarred and feathered. Stealing is f---ed.


..::- Chris -::..

19-Nov-2008
3:20:08 PM

I noticed a girl with long goldern / blonde hair, with curly locks lurking around during the day on CUP weekend.....

Below is a rough sketch of the culprit....

She's apparently moved onto porridge so my bear friends tell me.....


westie

19-Nov-2008
3:24:40 PM

Perhaps word needs to go round the pines that people are on the lookout - could someone stick a wanted sign up on the noticeboard at the toilet block??

note to climbing bums - I'll be there next week and will only be carrying cruskits.


IdratherbeclimbingM9

19-Nov-2008
3:33:02 PM

Not good.
This is disappointing news to hear. Donations are one thing but stealing is another.

>Perhaps word needs to go round the pines that people are on the lookout

~> in my opinion it would be better to keep it quiet, and instead have a mopoke or two on the lookout to catch the (insert suitable adjective) in the act.

They then ought to be made to repeat one of (insert suitable name) routes sans pro and with broken fingers, as minimum punishment!


ambyeok

19-Nov-2008
3:57:19 PM

True charity is blind to its recipient. Anything else is bullshit done to support your own ego and reinforce your subjective view of the world. Climbing is the vocation, chockstone is the hobby! I for one will be giving my spare food freely.

psd

19-Nov-2008
4:12:55 PM

On 19/11/2008 ambyeok wrote:
>True charity is blind to its recipient. Anything else is bullshit done
>to support your own ego and reinforce your subjective view of the world.
>Climbing is the vocation, chockstone is the hobby! I for one will be giving
>my spare food freely.

Name one charity that "is blind to its recipient". Are you saying Oxfam, Amnesty International, World Vision are all bullshit?


wallwombat

19-Nov-2008
4:24:52 PM

On 19/11/2008 tnd wrote:
>If they're fit enough to climb they're fit enough to go and get a job and stop being a parasite.

Or at least seek some sponsorship from Centerlink, who have sponsored many well known Australian climbers in the past.

On 19/11/2008 tnd wrote:
>I don't throw food out. I take it home and eat it myself.

So do you actually take your leftovers all the way back to Sydney from Arapiles. Wow!


ambyeok

19-Nov-2008
4:49:35 PM

On 19/11/2008 psd wrote:
>Name one charity that "is blind to its recipient". Are you saying Oxfam,
>Amnesty International, World Vision are all bullshit?

I fail miserably to name one charity. But yes, certainly World Vision serves its own christian view and purpose. All these charaties do some great bullshit and it helps alot of people.


tnd

19-Nov-2008
4:52:00 PM

On 19/11/2008 wallwombat wrote:
>
>So do you actually take your leftovers all the way back to Sydney from
>Arapiles. Wow!

You can eat a lot on the 12 hour drive home...


tnd

19-Nov-2008
4:57:24 PM

On 19/11/2008 nmonteith wrote:
>...Not everyone has to live the 9-5 dream.

I couldn't give a sh1t what dream anyone wants to live, as long as they don't expect me and other hard working members of society to subsidise it.

Bob Saki

19-Nov-2008
5:02:03 PM

set a bear trap

kady

19-Nov-2008
6:02:59 PM

I am happy to subsidise people who dont want to work, god bless em, but then again i have a lockable esky.


JimboV10

19-Nov-2008
6:26:02 PM

On 19/11/2008 tnd wrote:
>I couldn't give a sh1t what dream anyone wants to live, as long as they
>don't expect me and other hard working members of society to subsidise
>it.

Damn straight...

Wendy

19-Nov-2008
7:13:12 PM

I'm with Neil, I think asking for left over food is offering a recycling service, especially for fresh food which can't be taken across state borders and gets thrown out anyway. Vast amounts of food gets thrown out in our society and it is appalling. It's hardly expecting to live off hard working members of society. Many people freely offer their left overs without asking - it's happened to me in campsites and huts all over the world and I do the same when I leave somewhere.

People in the US are already petitioning to impeach Barrack Obama for "unconstitutional actions" - being universal healthcare - because the "hard working members of society" don't want to "subsidise" it. Lines similar to this are used against many crucial social services and I think it's worth thinking carefully about how big an issue something really is, how much it's really costing and if you might ever be on the other end of things before pulling it out. After all, we are all subsidising a war in Iraq, locking up refugees, the NT intervention etc etc.

Having said all that, I do think the current sign in the gums lacks a bit of manners - "Food donations in red eski" with a small "thanks" that seems an after thought - if any of you are reading this, i think you should rewrite your sign!!!!

And it's crap to have to worry about theives at Araps, I worried about stuff being stolen all over Europe, although nothing went missing from camp at all, only the midget Italian climbing thief that took my shoes at a crag at Finale, I'd hate it to become like that here.


wallwombat

19-Nov-2008
7:15:59 PM

I'm with Wendy and Neil.


nat

19-Nov-2008
7:51:45 PM

that really grinds my gears
i'm so efficient at shopping for trips & life now, that no food is wasted and we never go hungry. usually the cheese is on ration tho..
if someone stole my burritto stash from my esky i would be mortified
well hopefully karma has its way and they eat some bad grenola!

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