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CRUX Mag - issue # 6

ajfclark
10/04/2008
10:41:49 PM
Did anyone else find the spatter effect behind the text on pages 5 and 16 made the text difficult to read in places?

muki
10/04/2008
11:26:57 PM
I agree the psychedelic background have made some articles/editions very hard to read at times.

ajfclark
11/04/2008
11:43:41 AM
On 8/04/2008 Onsight wrote:
>...a Totem Pole slack-lining pull-out poster...

In future could pulling out the pull-out poster would leave the articles intact? Maybe having advertisements on the reverse sides?
widewetandslippery
11/04/2008
12:11:16 PM
Womans issue should be monthly.
devlin66
11/04/2008
12:30:37 PM
Most of the time it's daily......opps..... did I say that out loud? :)
k
11/04/2008
1:23:31 PM
On 10/04/2008 Wendy wrote:
>I'd have to agree that it wasn't the most girl filled girl power special
>imaginable. But i guess there are 2 possible reasons for this.
>1. There was heaps of appropriate material offered but the editors chose
>otherwise
>or
>2. There wasn't enough girl power material offered to make it a really
>standout girlie mag.

I doubt there was heaps of appropriate material, getting content for free is always hard work, but I agree with you wendy, it could have been handled better.

As a contributor I was more than a bit disappointed with this issue, too. It wasn't so much the content that was the problem, but the direction of the content. It seems informed by a pretty school boy idea of what a women's issue should be... hot pink? flowers? girl power? a special fashion section presumably because chicks love fashion? The overall effect was pretty patronizing.

Don't get me wrong, Crux is a good publication, but all Simon's talk of it being on the edge and taking risks doesn't ring true. More like gender politics from 20 years ago with this issue.


rodw
11/04/2008
1:55:18 PM
Once they changed the size to the current format...it started it on the big slide to conformity IMHO....on top of that, even having a "female edition" is wrong in what should be a non gender orientated sport.

The reason climbing mags have less chicks in em because they make up less of the climbing population...its not rocket science....why does a climbing mag need to have a "womens issue"......to correct some percieved political correctness imbalance?



Winston Smith
11/04/2008
2:13:10 PM
I think that they should print Crux on unicorn skin and convey it on the backs of gryphons to the home of every climber in Australia where it should be hand delivered by the Easter Bunny.

I also don't like the fonts so it should be written in cuneiform in invisible ink.

I'd also like every issue to come with a 100 per cent life-size model of El Capitan.

It should also be free.

The next issue should have a theme of androgyny, like David Bowie circa 1972.

Or maybe we should have a knockers issue ...

that's where all the experts sounding off here put the next issue together.

Actually, let's call it the dog's breakfast issue ...

Declaration: I wrote a story in the current issue and helped edit several of the stories in this and the last issue.

Let the s-t storm of outrage begin ...

Eduardo Slabofvic
11/04/2008
2:35:14 PM
On 11/04/2008 orwell wrote:
>>Let the s-t storm of outrage begin ...

I think you've hit the nail right on the head (or would that be the neil right on the head...I dunno). I would
like all future editions to be printed on absorbent paper with a perforation down the spine, with all photos to
be of Steam Train Engines, and the letter e removed from all articles (to save on space).

martyb
11/04/2008
2:58:19 PM
On 11/04/2008 rodw wrote:
>IMHO....on top of that, even having a "female edition"
>is wrong in what should be a non gender orientated sport.

You can look at this in another way. Gender can be the form of topical discussion for the magazine, i.e. a feature on the Blue Mountains isn't produced to uphold that area against the dominant crags in Australia but instead to focus on it, bring to light the best, worst and banal that it can offer.

P.S. I haven't seen the mag yet.

tnd
11/04/2008
3:39:06 PM
On 11/04/2008 orwell wrote:
>...
>Or maybe we should have a knockers issue ...

Damn, I thought you meant like FHM or Ralph, until I read:

>that's where all the experts sounding off here put the next issue together

manacubus
11/04/2008
3:45:38 PM
On 11/04/2008 k wrote:
>It wasn't so much the content that was the problem, but the direction of
>the content. It seems informed by a pretty school boy idea of what a women's
>issue should be... hot pink? flowers? girl power? a special fashion section
>presumably because chicks love fashion? The overall effect was pretty patronizing.

What were they thinking? It should have been err, black, with...skulls...and...stuff. And fashion? Well of course chicks don't like fashion! Move with the times, Crux.
Winston Smith
11/04/2008
3:53:02 PM
No way man, that's too conformist dude. We're rad rock climbers man.

We should have centrefolds of naked blocks of tofu, in fact the whole magazine could be printed on tofu and eaten in silent outrage at the affrontery of it not being printed in a parallel dimension.

In fact let's make it a only accessible to people who have a USB port implanted in their head and can download it directly into their brain, the brain being the bulbous part on which they're sitting.

... now donning Gore-tex gear and awaiting the tidal surge of return spray.




muki
11/04/2008
5:38:24 PM
On 11/04/2008 orwell wrote:
>... now donning Gore-tex gear and awaiting the tidal surge of return spray.

No replies yet? maybe your journalistic style could use some polishing ....be more interesting?
BA
11/04/2008
5:45:42 PM
On 11/04/2008 Eduardo Slabofvic wrote:

>with all photos to
>be of Steam Train Engines, and the letter e removed from all articles
>(to save on space).

Shouldn't that be "Stam Train Ngins" ?

Chuck Norris
11/04/2008
9:03:50 PM
On 11/04/2008 bomber pro wrote:
>On 11/04/2008 orwell wrote:
>>... now donning Gore-tex gear and awaiting the tidal surge of return
>spray.
>
>No replies yet? maybe your journalistic style could use some polishing
>....be more interesting?

agree....i thought the comments negative and positive have been pretty constructive. If all you want is
arse kissy bum licky feedback then go and ask mummy and daddy.


mousey
11/04/2008
9:08:12 PM
i promise that isnt what they want... crux 100% wants to hear this kinda stuff!!

nmonteith
15/04/2008
6:26:21 PM
I wrote a nice long response to this last week. Bugger! This is the short and quick response...

We listen! I love this sort of feedback - keep it coming. It's supposed to be a community mag - reflecting what you guys climb, photograph and write about.

Regarding the 'Girl Power' aspect. We were attempting to get more female involvement in the magazine as contributors (ie authors, photographers, editors). If you look through the general content of this issue we really did get a good collection of this. The magazine wasn't supposed to be ABOUT women, but more FOR them and BY them. Well, that was the aim anyway!

And regarding getting a female editor for this issue - that would have been great, but no-one was willing to take up the very time consuming role (ie 4 hours a day for 3 months - no pay). I did put out request for a few suitable people but none had the time. We had a few female sub-editors if you look at the credit page...

Keep the feedback (and articles) coming!

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