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Chockstone Forum - General Discussion

General Climbing Discussion

Poll Option Votes Graph
Yes I use chalk 126
82% 
No I don't use chalk 28
18% 

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To Chalk or not to Chalk

sabu
14/04/2005
11:14:58 AM
On 14/04/2005 nmonteith wrote:
>Did you fall off because you were sweating too much?

no i fell off because i couldn't do the moves, plain and simple.

nmonteith
14/04/2005
11:26:31 AM
On 1/04/2005 Nick Kaz wrote:
>"Tite-Grip is a non-slip antiperspirant hand lotion that dries clear and
>will not stain clothes." http://www.tite-grip.com/

OK - My tube of Tite Grib has arrived from the USA (US$10 delivered in a week). Initial lab tests in my office show -
It smells like peppermint
It dries clear
My hands don't seem to sweat typing this post

neats
14/04/2005
11:27:04 AM
LOL!!

rodw
Online Now
14/04/2005
12:03:02 PM
Be interested to hear field reports of it Neil, imagine if it does what it claims, combine that with chalk and you will never slip of anything again:)

nmonteith
14/04/2005
12:17:16 PM
Liquid chalk + Tite Grip + Hoof Master + normal chalk + superglue + tape = success!!


rodw
Online Now
14/04/2005
12:21:24 PM
Now we're talking.

anthonyk
14/04/2005
12:45:34 PM
On 14/04/2005 nmonteith wrote:
>Liquid chalk + Tite Grip + Hoof Master + normal chalk + superglue + tape
>= success!!

you need to turn your chalk bag into your magic goo bag, just mix it all together and take a dip

mmm spoogy..

sabu
14/04/2005
4:02:15 PM
ahahaha almost aid climbing wit that stuff!!
BA
14/04/2005
7:15:03 PM
I hope with all that gunk you can actually get your hands of the holds after you grab them! (Or will you need to sweat a bit to free your hands?)
kieranl
14/04/2005
7:41:36 PM
I'm trying to find an old article from Climbing that examined the effect of chalk and the chemical effects of chalk mixed with sweat on caked holds. I used to have the article (but not the issue of Climbing) but can't lay my hands on it in the bomb-site that passes for my climbing records. It was a very good article as I recall and very relevant to this topic. If anyone else can lay their hands on it, please let me know. It was in Climbing in mid 1987.

manacubus
15/04/2005
10:29:42 AM
> Liquid chalk + Tite Grip + Hoof Master + normal chalk + superglue + tape = success!!

You're more machine than man!

Rich
15/04/2005
11:39:05 AM
I'll just stick with my titanium tendon implants thanks.. none of that shenanigans for me

itchyfingers
15/04/2005
1:57:56 PM
you can almost see the final scene from T2, where arnie gives the thumbs up as he goes into hte vat of molten metal. except with all that crap on your hands it probably wouldn't dissolve, and you'd just see this arm bobbing up and down, eternally reaching for a hold...

steph
15/04/2005
8:10:37 PM
On 14/04/2005 climbau wrote:
>Steph, with your new chalk habit comes the responsibility of a new set
>of excuses(see appropriate thread), use them well young chalk abuser! And
>may the force(/chalk) be with you.

hey - not new habit, its an old habit that i've thrown and will never concede to again. if nothing else i'm glad this barrage of bagging steph posts has happened so i never feel inclined to go 4 the chalk again! so many reasons not to thanks for making it 100 times easier. :) i continue to hold my stance against chalk abuse DON'T THINK THIS MEANS ALL OF YOU CHALK ABUSERS CAN GET OFF LIGHTLY JUST COS I HAD A WEAK MOMENT! hate to be phylosophical but u should all quit chalk use for urselves, stop using me as an excuse not to (see appropriate thread) and start removing heads from chalk clouds.

Zebedee
15/04/2005
11:44:19 PM
Putting aside (if you can) the enviromental considerations there is still the question of whether chalk is 'aid'. Which may not seem likely but what about if there were SUPER sticky boots and virtually any foot placement would stick? There must be some point at which we can say that is no longer climbing or at least not the same type of climbing (like sports climbing). Here is a link to a non climbing article that does consider the ethical impact of advancements in materials on sport. http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9702/Froes-9702.html
I particularly like the idea that I could patent technology and then I would be the only one who could use it.

rodw
Online Now
16/04/2005
8:31:10 AM
I think chalk and shoes make it more a level playing field, especially chalk. Some poeple dont sweat as much as others, so can hold onto slopers etc without as much chalk. Add chalk into the equation it comes down to technique between the two rather than how sweats the most.

So Steph is that a "Rock Solid, Iron Clad gaurantee"??? your not related to Tony Abbot in any way are u?

steph
16/04/2005
3:42:40 PM
On 16/04/2005 rodw wrote:
>So Steph is that a "Rock Solid, Iron Clad gaurantee"??? your not related
>to Tony Abbot in any way are u?

That's a guarantee and there are no Abbots in my family tree thank you very much. I might also add that i was once an avid chalk user before i realised the consequences of it. I sweat as much as the next person and i don't think that stopping using chalk will change that. All i can do is change my outlook on why i need(ed) it and whether or not i could get the same satisfaction of climbing without it. The answer is yes and I dont think that climbing is all about the competition. Climb at your best (with or without chalk) and you never know - maybe in the future there could be different ratings for 'chalk' climbs and 'natural' climbs just like bolted and trad have evolved.

I don't think that using chalk is classified as aiding as much as i dislike it. It does to an extent just rid elements of climbing that aren't ideal so climbing in most conditions produces a similar result in ability.

itchyfingers
16/04/2005
4:21:03 PM
i'm sure you'll stop using chalk steph. really, i am. until you reach a climb you can't do again. how about you ceremonially burn the chalkbag, and then we can trust you? ; )

steph
17/04/2005
8:27:34 AM
On 16/04/2005 itchyfingers wrote:
>i'm sure you'll stop using chalk steph. really, i am. until you reach a
>climb you can't do again. how about you ceremonially burn the chalkbag,
>and then we can trust you? ; )

i dont really care if you trust me or not i'm not quitting chalk for you nor will anyone ever be able to prove that i never use it outdoors again. so i'm doing it because i want to be able to climb pristene rock outdoors for many years in the future and dont want it wrecked by ppl interested in their own performances and the 'now'.

nmonteith
18/04/2005
9:04:41 AM
I have continued my tests. I manged a chalk free onsight of a 20 at Bundaleer at 7am on saturday morning. It was cold enough that wiping my hand son my pants was ok. A few hours later I was requiring massive amounts of chalk on a 23 when the sun hit the wall with full strength.

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