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Havachatwithhexy...

IdratherbeclimbingM9
14-Oct-2004
5:34:12 PM
Hex et al may have said* (*modified fairly extensively);
> Lats have feelings too !!

> For Sale (now)!
BoaredOfTheRings has ripped off the dunny seat from; ... The Pines?
Its gone!!! … (integrity is intact)
… ->shades of Aunty Jack!!

>Awwwww c'mon guys !!! --- use the bloody potty-chairs !!! "...
> You name them and they've probably dumped through it! …
>-- they're just the tsetse flies feasting on the HEX droppings, you're looking at ---and didn't you drop a lot today !!!

> Yeah,fair enuf moderator--- Hexy WAS sailing a bit close to the politically-correct wind...

> return several times so I can ...

>Oh I like ta have a Scotch with Hexie-(Troll)
>Yeah, I like ta have a Scotch with Hex
>We drink in moderation... (mostly),
>Together on the Forum its gonna be vexation,
>Cos we like ta stir the cauldron!!...; (kinda rhymes with moderation) ...
>Anyways we drink at the Buffalo Chalet
>where the atmosphere is great !
>Ohh I like ta have a Scotch with Hex -Troll.
>Cos H-T's me mate (an its GREAT; ... defiantly) !!!

>Now go and have a long , soothing soak in the cauldron---it's VERY warm at the moment ---
Moderators 1 to 9 are waiting for you ! ...

>'SMOKE & MIRRORS'
>Its all a game …
Hey H-T, betcha can't find the
>lowerthanasnakesarsepost
>under the floorboards anywhere!
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>All the faeries said nuff, nuff, nuff!
... or "Ha" ?


HEX
14-Oct-2004
5:34:22 PM
10 seconds later , A5 --- look what lurks under the floor-boards of ya post !!! --- smoke 'n' mirrors indeed !!!
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THE AUSTRALIAN RE, RETRO-BOLTING OPEN FORUM Thursday, 8 April 2004 At 5:45:15 PM A5iswhereitsat

>Hex I am IMPRESSED.
>You do indeed move in mysterious ways.
>Thats the 1st time I have had a post replied to in the time that it took to go from 'OK->enter' to ... Forums.
>Its almost like you were reading my 'to be sent' item as I was typing it.
>This cauldron has some heavy duty broth in it!
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Ahhhh --- what an amaaaazing day on the summit of this thread, today --- VERY ' open-forum ' educational indeed !! ---" Hello-Goodbye-Bonjoir-whateva !!! "



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" Shizz !! --- the sun is setting fust !! --- we must hurry back-down to da snow-cave before that Damo character scoffs the lust of our mush-mellows & budd-weezers !!! "...

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HEX
15-Oct-2004
12:31:55 PM
kieranl
23/03/2003
11:11:38 PM

> I can't tell you the original source but there are various commercial magnesium >carbonate products. At one stage someone sourced a powder version (possibly that >used in weight-lifting) and it was cheaper than the cake form that we normally use but >people didn't like the feel of it. It made the holds feel "soapy" for want of a better word.
>I bought some chalk from a chemist in the early 1980's but only after undergoing a >grilling to make sure that I didn't have some gross bowel problem...

Conquistador --- any chance of youz supply-ing us with some discount, carcinogenic-free-chalk , no questions asked ?...


Oh SPAM! Oh SPAM! Gourmet delight!
My food by day, my dreams by night.
To carve, to slice, to dice you up -
pureed in a blender and sipped from a cup.

On some corporate farm, a pig has died.
Eyes, tongue, and snout end up inside
that cube of SPAM hidden in the can
I now hold in my trembling hand.

More than mere food, SPAM is for me
a hedonistic expression of gluttonous glee.
Mottled with pork fat, the pink cube engrosses.
My mouth takes it in, my intestine disposes ...


dalai
15/10/2004
9:42:53 AM

>This latest post is nothing but SPAM!

As always , dalai , I tend to agree ! ( however--- if there's a dollar in it for admin...nudge/wink...)

Luv HEX & John Strong ...

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BoaredOfTheRings
13/10/2004
11:45:39 PM

>This topic is in very poor taste!

Piggy, my friend,
we luv your posts
You in a can ?
Or maybe a roast ...
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HEX
15-Oct-2004
5:14:29 PM
Topic Date User
Anonymous Chockstone users ,Friday, 25 July 2003 At 6:39:32 PM, Rich :


>haha nice pic neil.. the boltenator!








Hey , dudes !!! --- Hexy found Damo lurking in the archives ! ...(press the re-fresh button for dyamic action...)
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Damo/bouge struggles for creative-expression under the floor-boards & then :
" Awww F@#% it !!! --- I'm goin' back to the MUMC forum !! --- revenge of the nerds 'n' all !! " ...

Bourge
15-Oct-2004
5:17:08 PM
Hex you're a flicken W-a-c-k-o

you been gone for years
hangin too long with queers
Now you're talkin about haven beers
but I know we won't be sayen cheers

cos you is flicken W-a-c-k-o
Should have stayed in Heuco
or was that W-A-C-O (texas style)
Cos all you been doin is flingen saego

duff-tss-duff-tss-duff-ts........dff-Tsss....

dff-dff-dff-dff-dff-dff-dff-dff

When Bourge old boy
shuffles to the mike
(girls: shake it bourge, shake it bourge)
The trolls get dusted
They can take a hike

Cos these rhymes they're fly
It's a winning formula
Need you ask why?
Bourge issinda nebula

(girls: shake it bourge, shake it bourge)

Now ladies....

(girls: yeh bourge! yeh bourge!)

What time is it?

(girls: it's bourge time! bourge time)

Let's cut it!

dff-dff-dff-dff-dff-tsss-dff-tss-dff-tss

Hex
Work out which sex is best
lest you'll be a pest
an continue wit dis mess
that you been passin for a thread
I tink that you should rest
You don look well git back to tha nest
You dabblin in affairs that be too complex
The hunted has become the hunter, tha addax
And all the while the one who's been your scourge
becomes da boss, and da boos is bourge

(girls: shake it bourge, shake it bourge)

That's right, I'm da boos

shuffa, shuffa shuffa shuffle

Now listen here nippers
I may be old
in my gown and ma slippers
But in my youth I ran like a whippet!

With a warmcup of milk and rhymes smooth as silk
Faster than lightnening like da flipper
Check this hear cos it's a ripper
With all dis funk I'm here to deliver

Dff.....Dff.....Dff...shuffa....shuffle to the mike (shake it bourge! shake it bourge)


Now let dis be da warnin to the damey
I the grandaddy, puffdaddy in da makin
You had you time, before you got lamey
I'm in da kitchen now and goodness I bakin

(girls: Bake it bourge! bake it Bourge)

Ha! Hallo!

(girls: Bake it bourge! bake it bourge)

Ha! hallo! Bounjour! Ha!





HEX
15-Oct-2004
5:31:42 PM
kent
7/09/2004
3:40:53 PM

>you can do better than this damo. A complete waste of my time and internet space in >general. one thumb down.
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Topic Date User
Wheres Hex? Friday, 7 May 2004 At 3:13:40 PM, adamk :

>Not enough room on one forum for two 'big' men eh. If you are still a man >Damo/Damietta? Heres a challenge...if u choose to accept it... try replying to this post >with something about Hexy that has elements of grace and humility...
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Damo/bouge gives one-last squeal/grunt under the floor-boards :




HEX
15-Oct-2004
6:25:05 PM
BUMP ...
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Topic Date User
liquid chalk Monday, 29 March 2004 At 3:39:22 PM , trent :

>i have been using liquid chalk ( aka "liquid stiction") for about 12 months. i just mix >magnesium carbonate light (climbing chalk) and ethanol (pure alcohol). It works a treat >for bouldering as well as the inital chalk application for a roped climb. It lasts heaps >longer than loose or balled chalk and the ethanol drys your hands beyond the point >chalk ever could...
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Matt ?! --- took me a while to click ! --- 10-4 ,dude ...Say G'day to Mon' for me ...
Havasafe'n'happyweekendeverybody! ...Luuuuuv HEX...
Onsight
15-Oct-2004
6:49:34 PM
Cheers for breaking trail yesterday Hex. Look forward to tackling that mountain again another time. I'm always interested in expeditionary proposals… so long as it’s good (for) climbing.

PS. don't worry about Matt - it was a nasty shock but he's looking OK.

wombats
15-Oct-2004
7:02:28 PM
Where am I???

Is it just me or is this thread kinda have several people mindlessly (& somewhat musically) talking to themselves in situational or otherwise private jokes, that seem to have no relevance to the main focus of our discussions.... ie. climbing?

Or am I just too new to this site to not get the whole 'groove' of it?

Or am I just another person mindlessly talking to myself?

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I thought I moved to Sydney,
to get a little piece,
of the city life they're talking about in the 90s,
where everyone I meet don't know my name,
they wanna know what I do for a living....

~ The Waifs

(just being musical & mindless, or perhaps just in my own little world!!
James
15-Oct-2004
7:08:29 PM
nope, noone knows what's going on here. everyone pretends, but no-one really knows.... Hex (especially) has no idea (don't even ask about borge-ass)
James
15-Oct-2004
9:07:00 PM

>Seems to me we are all part of a neo-climbing-revolution , where >camp-fire,magazine,cyber-space,etc,etc,etc are all trying to compete/survive , but at the same time >blend&fuse to extract the best from each-other...
>yaknowvaguelywa'Imean ?...

so lets fuse the mediums in a furiously boiling brew that threatens to slop over the side of the cauldren.....

as rodw so eloquently stated (@ 1:44:03 on 7/10.04....) "... it breaks up the work day having a good city vs city slanging match....."

sir-lurk-a-lot-B-boy must be weakening as he clearly lost the age old NSW-v-Vic battle in publishing the nasty blaesphemy that was the 'mortaility's icey hand' serve by that ignorant-punk-cossey.... obviously the sport-climbing-lamo doesn 't know *%#$*% about 'icey' substances (do you know what a real cliff / rock is? or do you just pull yourself on that northerly combination of choss-'n-ramset-reinforcement?).... otherwise he wouldn't write such tripe about (one of..) the consumate strong-dudes of this perculier thing that is aussie climbing.

but... based on durban-rock-drummond-dave's plug, sir-bax-a-lot hit the sweet spot this time
>are you guys on drugs or what ?
>Bens article was so funny. Easily the best piece of writing in the magazine.

ARE YOU GUYS ON DRUGS OR WHAT ?

....Mikl's postcard was entertaing as always -- props to mikl!! do tell us more about those fat seppos & life without real coffee (or real beer?)

>......YOO--DA--LAY--EEEEE--OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!
heeeexxxieeee..... booorrrrgggggeeeeeeeee...... the cauldren's ready......


HEX
16-Oct-2004
12:52:55 PM
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climbingjac
6/02/2004
3:37:18 PM

>hex-Troll: I must admit, I don't really understand what you're saying!!! You're either >taking the p#ss or agreeing with me. Either way ... this will spark an interesting conversation...

>jac...
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Bourge
17-Oct-2004
10:45:38 AM
Hi wombats!

Ha! Allo! Allez!

Yes we are clearly lost here! Help!!!

Tel
17-Oct-2004
11:36:24 AM
On 14/10/2004 dalai wrote:

>
>Not the people I have discussed the quality of Rock magazine with. Like
>me, most now if bothered spend a couple of minutes in the newsagents with
>each new issue- flipping through Rock and then leaving. Knowing that the
>magazine has once again failed to deliver the goods...

I am also in agreeance with Dalais' comment. The question I have though is... why is Rock not delivering the goods?

Is it due to a lack of contributions from readers and hence the content is lacking?

Is it that there is not a great deal happening in Australian climbing, hence not much to write about?

Is it that the scope of Rock is to narrow?,.. and I think this has had a mention before, in that the climbers Rock highlights is a select few.

If you could change it, what would you do? .....and what is preventing it from being changed?

when we begin to question, we become aware,
when we act, then we begin to realize

HEX
17-Oct-2004
3:53:41 PM
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HEX
8/07/2004
7:06:36 PM

... we know y'all just '... web-site junkies , scawling on cyber-space...', etc,etc,etc

Well, b***** me !!! --- how things are evolving ! ; from camp-fire to computer , Baxter makes it all ,oh-so-clear !

So '... pull the curtains, dim the lights, take hold of your mouse , and step into the shady world of cyber-rock...' (Tempest 1998 )

So where to from here ? ...

1) Camp-fire convos are still as fun and existentially stimulating , as they ever were , no doubt ,even in the cave-(wo)man days...
2) Baxter's ' yeah-what-ever-we-can-handle-it-all ' refreshing editorial, suggests that the book technology is still one of the most enduring we have , now and into the future---support Rock everyone : it DOES ,generally, improve with each issue.
3) Cyber-rock ? --- ' The Hex ' can envisage ,a not too far off time , when there will be an inter-active climbing function on Chockstone , allowing for people to meet, climb/belay with each other, with-out actually etc,etc,etc

Obviously, cyber-climbing / chatting is here to stay---is that a good thing ?

If the likes of Chockstone , Qurank , RC , etc,etc,etc can provide reflections of / alternatives to / competition with / even inspiration for , the general climbing-culture , then that has to , surely , be a good thing...

Chockstone, Rock mag , Arapiles camp-fires--- defiantly room for them all ! ( to blend )...

Luv, HEX

phil box
9/07/2004
7:36:54 AM

That`s very deep HEX, mate yer letting the side down here. Quite unlike you to ponder the deep imponderables of this world.

Actually you`ve nailed it mate, bring on more posts like this one I say.

Richard
21/07/2004
1:17:56 PM

I don't think magazines have ever really made a tactial response to immediacy of the internet...

adamk
21/07/2004
2:28:38 PM

I think Mikl's point about their being more climbers but less articles is an interesting one. Perhaps because the style of climbing has changed so much this is reflected in what can be written about. I'm only assuming this could it be that 'back in the day' a climbing weekend included putting up new routes, having adventures, experiencing danger, near death experiences, stuff that was interesting to both write and read about. A modern climbing weekend (im not complaining just making a point) usually entails clipping draws on a mega repeated sports route(a fall doesnt mean death anymore) if it rains we have high tech gear to keep us dry and warm, we have 4wd so we dont get bogged on the way(or back) to the crag it all becomes a bit bland and dry. Even if we break ourselves to bits we know a chopper probably isnt that far away. In the pursuit of hell hard grades (which is awesome) perhaps some of the Adventure has been lost and this is reflected in the kind of articles we read in rock... To me Rock seems to be a pretty good indicator of what's going on in the climbing community, if Rock has become bland then is that an indicator of our climbing community?


rodw
21/07/2004
4:12:00 PM

On 21/07/2004 adamk wrote:
>I think Mikl's point about their being more climbers but less articles
>is an interesting one.

Could it be that the "interesting characters are lost in the crowd". In the good ole days word got around as the community was small and intimate, now being bigger the only stories that get passed around are the higher end achievements...

James
21/07/2004
7:40:19 PM

rock is pretty much a 'labour of love'... it needs to be runs as a business but doesn't get the return. its Baxters perogative to be anal with the editing & reject / accept whatever he wants. But its also my perogative (as a consumer) not buy it. I'd think more people would contribute if the editorial 'standards' weren't so strict, & this in turn would get more people buying it. I don't hear many people referring to the old issues of rock with enthusiasm, but I do hear people reminising about the 'trashy' old climbing mags...`

29 July 2004 At 10:56:21 PM mikl law :

And I want a groundswell of popular emotion to turn it into a kicking climbers mag with loads of wierd articles from the back blocks while still paying lip service to mountaineering and it's inevitable loss and death (mostly brain cells)... while trad climbing and ground up first ascents don't make for good climbing, they do make for better reading than when sports bunnies go bolting....
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Tel --- The main thing that will change ' Austalia's climbing magazine ' is an economically-viable effort such as the VERY FUNKY , but short-lived Climb-mag, by Mike Myers and assorted mini-meez...--- It was ,(and still is for those who have preserved the 7 or so mags) , an excellent solution to the sorts of issues that continue to be raised ...--- Excellent multi-dimentional/medium graphics ; Hip editors/contributors who got into climbing during the ' Golden-Age ' --- rather than when hemp-rope&mild-steel carabiners were state-of-da-art... ; But at the same time attracting , and allowing free-flowing littery/photographic expression to those climbing identities/characters from said earlier times : eg. Ewbank & Jackson...

Baxter is clearly distracted/obsessed with using Wild-mag as a giant bull-dozer blade to carve-out the greenie-save-the-f@#%ing-forests agenda , while dragging Rock-mag along , behind , in the bland, finely-ground political dust...

Seems to be a reasonably do-gooda-utilitarian effort the last couple of years...--- "Oh well , if no-one else wants/can organise the financial aspects of maintaining ' something' , then I 'spose I/we had better keep churning them out --- even if they are starting to look like a long line of Miestri-bolts up and across a beatiful big expanse of ' blank, potentially artistically superb, canvas --- something is better than nothing ..."

Maybe it's time to return to once-every-6-months-only issues ...Create a bit of pent-up ' need' & emotion for a ' fix' , thats worth every cent to buy...

Climb-mag is tre`-grouse cos they always managed to ' humanise ' the big-number-rock-stars , with peripheral-to-the~gr30~ascent, photos and quotes that made one feel a bit like being on the road tour with said stars --- VD @ Frog eg. ; The multi-photo-frame ascent of Dungeon Master was another excellent ' innovation' ; All round it seem to provide a very fertile , colourful , fun&funky , climbing-community vibe , that transcended being a flat 'n' glossy ' climbing magazine ' ...

While Rock is providing a few regular , chipped holds , to 'get us all thru until something better comes along ' , perhaps Mr myers & associates should have a serious look at re-starting Climb AND running-the-ruler-over a possible financial-settlement-take-over-asset-strip-the-best-of/snuffing-out of Rock-mag ...

Waddayareckon Mr Myers ? : " YEAAAAHHHH ---- BABY----YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH !!!!
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HEX
17-Oct-2004
5:21:09 PM
Another factor now , of course, is the growing plethora of web sites/forums witch are satisfying/satiating the ' need ' for text/image/discourse/etc,etc,etc...

We now have Chockstone, Qurank , Crag-X , Bouldering ' , Climbing ' --- not to mention all the ' international ' ones such as RC... ; PLUS all the x-over morphs such as Ski, Surf , Bigboobs , etc,etc,etc

The A4magazine thing really is becoming a bit of a side-show , as the A5iswhereitsat brigade embrace and pursue the immediate-gratification of the web...--- and of course the ability to be INTER-ACTIVE with this medium...

Climbing mags have been around since the 60's --- Australian web-climbing since ??... maybe a couple of years... --- Maybe it's time to have one big ' umbrella ' entrance to all the climbing whatevers,ala ski.com.au --- rather than just a links page --- before all the Australian cyber-climbing becomes scattered , glossy 'n' flat... like Rock-mag...

Inserting thoughts into your cerabral-soft-ware , Luv HEX ...
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The Trans-pacific dude called World :

>Could we be captivated in a universe of big words drawing us deeper and deeper into >fantasy and adventure, with mystery and amazement pulling us from this life into a far >more interesting one of fiction?

>This is not my world.

>This world; all it's sweetness and complexity, it's scarred perfection, and it's daily >renaissance intrigues me more -- seeing it with my own eyes, feeling it with my own >hands, and standing atop of it having driven myself to the heights it reveals only to >those who sacrifice their time and sweat drenched efforts to look back down upon it.

This is more condasending/fairy-land talk than Malcolm Frazers ' Life wasn't meant to be easy --- eat shit 'n' die riff raff !!! " --- But since world is seeking Trump-esque apprentices , to launch an attempt to reach the summit of Mt.Hexy --- I like it !!!

world, dude --- fiction ? reality ? --- you're still lost in the murky-pre-cyber-1980's- back-wash ...--- like Mikl sayz in Rock 60 : the yanks these days are ...
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There's a womcat purring unda da floor-boards ...

wombats
17-Oct-2004
5:48:49 PM

I like it when I can understand you Hex...

Thanks.

Tel
18-Oct-2004
3:21:05 AM
On 17/10/2004 HEX wrote:
>Another factor now , of course, is the growing plethora of web sites/forums
>witch are satisfying/satiating the ' need ' for text/image/discourse/etc,etc,etc...
Basically Rock is now a redundant information/entertainment source,but......
The Sites&Forums that are working, work for the simple fact that those participating are able to get what they need from there. So possibly, it is not necessarily the medium but moreso the content.

looking further at content......

adamk
21/07/2004
2:28:38 PM
>. . . I'm only assuming this could it be that 'back in the day' a climbing weekend >included
>putting up new routes, having adventures, experiencing danger, near death >experiences, stuff that was interesting to both write and read about. . .

adamk
20/04/2004
>*the grose valley - this place is a must visit for all climbers. Abseiling
>into the valley is both commiting and exciting. I now have little desire
>for anything else in climbing except to tick every climb in this valley.

Maybe not "new routes", but new for all those that have never been there,

>*when the rope is between your legs and your belayer says if you fall
>you will nacker yourself dont always assume you will not fall...

Hmm... experiencing danger

> After the second day of the trip
>burps and farts were almost as extinct as the dinosaurs

Sweat beading on the forehead from clenched bum cheeks over long periods in confined spaces, that qualifies as a near death experience.

> Bluies/ Nowra roadtrip
The avdenture,

Irrespective of the medium entertaining reading is still entertaining reading, and the views and responses proved it to be entertaining reading.

James
21/07/2004
7:40:19 PM
>. . . I'd think more people would contribute if the editorial 'standards' weren't so strict,

A beginning to a possible solution, maybe....?

I feel that maybe it is the general discourse in the forum which is proving hardest for Rock. It is in the forum where the insight into what and how the climbing community seems to be thinking and feeling. As that aspect may not be reflected in the magazine then regardless of how much further it emulates or imitates this site in terms or trip reports and all other content here, readership will decline. If on the other hand it could in someway embody these thoughts/feeling/opinons, then as you suggested HEX there is definately room for all to blend.

thanks HEX for the cerebral haemorrhage

HEX
18-Oct-2004
12:15:04 PM
Tel --- the THINKING will do you good, bro...--- hopefully it didn't start a leg growing out the back of ya 'ed ! ...
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Best ways to get Dislocated for the Grade in Oz...

I need some colour
that's Onsight-pleasin'...
Check-out Julian's
left arm 'n' leg !!!
on Slopin Sleazin' (28) ...



MR. GADGET or WHAT ??!! ...

"...now , if I can just lock-off with my belly-button, I should just be able to reach that micro-edge ... with me tounge !! ... "
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IdratherbeclimbingM9
18-Oct-2004
12:40:53 PM
Hex said;
>The A4magazine thing really is becoming a bit of a side-show , as the A5iswhereitsat >brigade embrace and pursue the immediate-gratification of the web...--- and of course >the ability to be INTER-ACTIVE with this medium...

I LIKE Rock mag even with its shortcomings.
(What I perceive as shortcomings are probably someone elses strong points)! ~

What is it about the current generation that needs it now, right now, Hear me ~ now! ; Now, I said; ... instant gratification mindset ?

One can savour the moments with a mag and the tactile (yeah, blah blah) ...

Some people like second hand bookstores too!

There is room for both in the ongoing game, and they need not necessarily meld as they satisfy each niche.

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