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Anyone use grid references?
gfdonc
4-Jul-2018
8:36:02 AM
A lot of the old guidebook notes/updates have 6-digit grid references. These are only accurate to 100m in any case, vary depending on map projections and (I've found) are sometimes plain wrong.

Does anyone value grid references in relation to crags? I'm thinking I can just remove them (for the upcoming guide) as they're logically replaced by lat-long coordinates by GPS.
kieranl
4-Jul-2018
10:31:11 AM
I'm happy to drop grid references. I love maps but GPS lat/long makes much more sense these days.

ajfclark
4-Jul-2018
3:27:47 PM
On 4-Jul-2018 gfdonc wrote:
>Does anyone value grid references in relation to crags?

I use them to generate lat/long values, but aside from that, I don't find them at all useful.

JamesMc
4-Jul-2018
4:00:24 PM
Happy to drop them in favor of lat/long which is really a sort of grid system anyway
hero
4-Jul-2018
4:45:37 PM
You modern climbers with your androids and iphones with gps coordinates and good selfie cameras and micro titanium friends and those linkcams thingies and comfy harnesses and sticky rubber and girlfriends in sport-sbras and active wear that shout words of encouragement while you grunt up something like a tennis player in the majors and your fancy cars with air-conditioning and heaters and Bluetooth so you can listen to spotify off your iphone and catch up on the latest vance joy, solange and dia lupa hits and your kids can watch despicable me 3 and the incredibles two on the 3 hour drive down the dual lane highway to your house in Brunswick, you ask nod what that used to be like on horseback, and on tuesdays and thursdays you can go to an inner city bouldering cave and if you can get anywhere near the holds because of all the cross-fit training crew you can get strong and whisk back up the freeway to grunt on something else that is not only in the guidebook and on thecrag where you have meticulously documented all your ticked ascents but it is the selected guide to the selected guide and you can see it from your fukn tent and read about all the moves and sit around a portable gas heater and you bros and sis’ can con tell you all about all the moves what gear you need and where the little pocket is just after the horrendous gaston which incidentally is named after gaston rebuffat that everyone called rabbitfat and he climbed in Europe in the war and didn’t have any of your your androids and iphones with gps coordinates and good selfie cameras and micro titanium friends and those linkcams thingies and comfy harnesses and sticky rubber and girlfriends in sport-sbras and active wear that shout words of encouragement while you grunt up something like a tennis player in the majors and your fancy cars with air-conditioning and heaters and Bluetooth so you can listen to spotify off your iphone and catch up on the latest vance joy, solange and dia lupa hits and your kids can watch despicable me 3 and the incredibles two on the 3 hour drive down the dual lane highway to your house in Brunswick, you ask nod what that used to be like on horseback, and on tuesdays and thursdays you can go to an inner city bouldering cave and if you can get anywhere near the holds because of all the cross-fit training crew you can get strong and whisk back up the freeway to grunt on something else that is not only in the guidebook and on thecrag where you have meticulously documented all your ticked ascents but it is the selected guide to the selected guide and you can see it from your fukn tent and read about all the moves and sit around a portable gas heater and you bros and sis’ can con tell you all about all the moves what gear you need and where the little pocket is just after the horrendous gaston and could find his way around the Alps with grid references but.

Fuk them off, we don’t need them now.
Olbert
4-Jul-2018
7:08:15 PM
He's not the hero Chockstone deserved but he is the hero Chockstone needed.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
4-Jul-2018
7:34:02 PM
On 4-Jul-2018 hero wrote:
>(snip)
... harsh, but true!
One Day Hero
4-Jul-2018
8:21:43 PM
That is a mighty fine rant.
gfdonc
5-Jul-2018
7:13:19 AM
I guess that means Hero is off-the-grid but perhaps on-the-spectrum.

I feel honoured to have induced such a memorable thread hijack.

I'll start editing ..
BA
5-Jul-2018
9:03:22 AM
That's what missing from the climbing scene, bring back Dulux and Angel Black as well!!!
gfdonc
5-Jul-2018
10:30:00 AM
On 4-Jul-2018 ajfclark wrote:
>I use them to generate lat/long values,

Out of interest what calculation/site/tool are you using to convert these?
dalai
5-Jul-2018
11:46:35 AM
On 5-Jul-2018 BA wrote:
>That's what missing from the climbing scene, bring back Dulux and Angel
>Black as well!!!

Seconded! Worthy post by hero.

JamesMc
5-Jul-2018
5:45:48 PM
What's the problem? Even the Nati Bush Kinder has ipads!
hero
5-Jul-2018
7:32:43 PM
And they all climb harder than me :(

ajfclark
6-Jul-2018
8:43:20 AM
On 5-Jul-2018 gfdonc wrote:
>Out of interest what calculation/site/tool are you using to convert these?

I do not recall. It's been a long time since I did it.

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