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Fat burning year
mikllaw
2-Mar-2018
3:09:20 AM
After Eugene posted a photo of me belaying in January (can we upload pix to Chockstone still? This seems to have dissappeared), I decided that I was too fat to belay, and probably to fat to climb. I'd hovered at 97kg for a few years and nothing seemed to affect my weight.

One interesting thing about climbing fat isn't that things seem a bit more strenuous (that could just be age) but that how much of a difference it makes on slabs, which I'd always thought of as the last refuge of the pear-shaped:- some problems are impossible if your centre of gravity is an extra 20cm away from the rock.

I already do a fair amount of exercise which doesn't seem to affect my mass at all (though I'd probably balloon if I stopped), so I decided to start by the simple method of not sitting around with Vanessa watching TV and drinking wine. I go for a ride some evenings rather than start another bottle of wine and don't finish any of the food that Lexi spurns.

I've dropped 5 kg this month and climbing feels a bit more fun, like the difference between climbing on the sweatiest day of the year and one where there is a breeze thrown in.

I'll keep you posted.

salty crag
2-Mar-2018
12:25:41 PM
I need to copy you mike, I do a lot of training but indulge way to much in good food beer and wine.
One Day Hero
2-Mar-2018
6:47:22 PM
If there's inteference between gut and rock, your slabs aren't slabby enough. Come down for a biggest loser smashfest weekend at booroomba. I'll put you on grantoss's mandarin diet, works like magic.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
2-Mar-2018
7:29:07 PM
On 2-Mar-2018 mikllaw wrote:
>After Eugene posted a photo of me belaying* in January (can we upload pix
>to Chockstone still? This seems to have dissappeared), I decided that I
>was too fat to belay, and probably to fat to climb. I'd hovered at 97kg
>for a few years and nothing seemed to affect my weight.
>
>One interesting thing about climbing fat isn't that things seem a bit
>more strenuous (that could just be age) but that how much of a difference
>it makes on slabs, which I'd always thought of as the last refuge of the
>pear-shaped:- some problems are impossible if your centre of gravity is
>an extra 20cm away from the rock.
>
>I already do a fair amount of exercise which doesn't seem to affect my
>mass at all (though I'd probably balloon if I stopped), so I decided to
>start by the simple method of not sitting around with Vanessa watching
>TV and drinking wine. I go for a ride some evenings rather than start another
>bottle of wine and don't finish any of the food that Lexi spurns.
>
>I've dropped 5 kg this month and climbing feels a bit more fun, like the
>difference between climbing on the sweatiest day of the year and one where
>there is a breeze thrown in.
>
>I'll keep you posted.

* This one?


Heh, heh, heh.
johny
2-Mar-2018
8:44:46 PM
I stopped drinking this year after a couple biggish years of indulgence.

To kick things off I spent a month on Flinders Island. I think I lost 4kgs during the trip. I may have lost 1 of those KGs climbing a slab mikl law put up at Lovett Hill...
Actually I probably lost the weight by hiking up to the crag. We missed the easy approach and ended up bashing through the forest. Too much sober energy I guess. Anyway, after finally finding the cliff, Disco in Furneaux (great name) had a small forest growing up the initial corner and the rest was quite wet.
Beautiful spot though! And the hike back down was as easy as the book said.

Maybe I operate better hungover, less energy to burn means I think through the logistics better so I can efficiently drink? Hmmm...
mikllaw
3-Mar-2018
9:26:26 AM
On 2-Mar-2018 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:

>* This one?


>
>Heh, heh, heh.

No that's thin playboy of the western world pre-war mikl

(I think I've got to store a photo somewhere before I can show it).
Done!

Fat boy belayer

mikllaw
3-Mar-2018
9:51:30 AM
On 2-Mar-2018 johny wrote:

>Actually I probably lost the weight by hiking up to the crag. We missed
>the easy approach and ended up bashing through the forest. Too much sober
>energy I guess. Anyway, after finally finding the cliff, Disco in Furneaux
>(great name) had a small forest growing up the initial corner and the rest
>was quite wet.
>Beautiful spot though! And the hike back down was as easy as the book
>said.

We had the epic death bash up and easy meander out, I was wondering how different it would be 25 years later.
Did you get on Into the Labyrinth on the main peak? Some cool big lines up there


johny
3-Mar-2018
11:37:54 AM

> We had the epic death bash up and easy meander out, I was wondering how
>different it would be 25 years later.
>Did you get on Into the Labyrinth on the main peak? Some cool big lines
>up there
>
>
I was interested in the big roof on Lovett but my partner staged a mutiny. I did climb Into The Labyrinth it is good. Simon B from tassie bolted a 27 a few meters right of it which is good as well. Plenty more routes to do. I bolted a 55m 25 on Ball Rock while there. So much rock! It is a mission to day trip from Trousers Point. Fat burner for sure!
dalai
3-Mar-2018
12:39:06 PM
Given the volume of good rock in Sydney, a little confused why this little bouldering roof was bolted?
robbio
3-Mar-2018
5:23:00 PM
On 3-Mar-2018 dalai wrote:
>Given the volume of good rock in Sydney, a little confused why this little
>bouldering roof was bolted?

My thoughts exactly.

Duang Daunk
3-Mar-2018
5:36:05 PM
On 3-Mar-2018 robbio wrote:
>On 3-Mar-2018 dalai wrote:
>>Given the volume of good rock in Sydney, a little confused why this little
>>bouldering roof was bolted?
>
>My thoughts exactly.

That's not bolted.
It's GRID bolted.
Bro Mikl, you're not responsible for this crap act, err travesty are you?

Jayford4321
3-Mar-2018
6:07:43 PM
On 2-Mar-2018 mikllaw wrote:
>I've dropped 5 kg this month and climbing feels a bit more fun, like the
>difference between climbing on the sweatiest day of the year and one where
>there is a breeze thrown in.

Afta seein Ur pic , ima mazed that Cyclones make it az far south az Bluies?
mikllaw
5-Mar-2018
3:13:33 AM
Is alcohol the new sugar, is sugar the new fat?
hamish_b
5-Mar-2018
3:50:11 AM
Climbing when you are heavier than you used to be is very frustrating. Its like carrying around 10kg's of trad rack up a climb but you don't get to offload as you go up for the second to carry.

Willpower is my problem. I struggle with moderation, but it seems that cold turkey works. I have had some success trying 5/2 fasting and found it surprisingly ok, I just tended to overcompensate on the non fasting days. The slow-carb (beans and more beans) was good, but you get sick of beans. Having a cheat day makes it more.... do able. Habit also plays a big part, especially with alcohol.

I read something about thinking of it as building a wall. Each ride, healthy meal, booze free time is a brick in the wall that you are building. It might only be one brick, but your building a wall here and each brick has its place.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
5-Mar-2018
10:43:43 AM
On 5-Mar-2018 hamish_b wrote:
>Climbing when you are heavier than you used to be is very frustrating.
> Its like carrying around 10kg's of trad rack up a climb but you don't get to offload as you go up for the second to carry.
>(snip)

I consider my heavy (ancient) rack as weight training!
Heh, heh, heh.

I like your 'brick & wall building' analogy.



On 2-Mar-2018 mikllaw wrote:
>(snip) I'd hovered at 97kg for a few years and nothing seemed to affect my weight.
>
>(snip) I already do a fair amount of exercise which doesn't seem to affect my
>mass at all (though I'd probably balloon if I stopped), (snip)
>
>I've dropped 5 kg this month (snip)

I had a stable weight of 82 kg for many many years; which eventually crept up to 85, then got to 87 kg just before/after retirement; and so I took up the mountain biking supplement, as I obviously wasn't doing enough climbing to keep it stable!
Within 18 months my weight dropped to 77 kg and seems to have stabilised again.
I certainly feel much better for it, and MTB'ing is fun too.

Since having the heart issue I've cut back on alcohol consumption as it really isn't good for us, though I didn't consider myself excessive in that department with an average of about 3 std drinks per day (the odd alcohol free day equalised out with the odd excessive drink day!), ... with a view to stopping altogether when current supplies run out(!); ... to test for myself if I can perceive any health benefits from that action; though my mindset is a bit along the lines of it not being much use feeling grumpy from abstinence, although fit as, if I meet my demise going under a bus or something similarly unanticipated.

I'm impressed by johny's form as incentive, ... (no more mallets in The Pines for his visits? ;-) ), ~ not that I will ever climb the high grades he is achieving!
johnpitcairn
5-Mar-2018
1:31:53 PM
Current supplies ... how much do you have??? ;-)

I found leaving the city knocked 5kg off me pretty smartly. Maybe it was all the heavy lifting, but lack of proximity to nummy treats and decent craft beer must surely help?

IdratherbeclimbingM9
5-Mar-2018
2:22:51 PM
On 5-Mar-2018 johnpitcairn wrote:
>Current supplies ... how much do you have??? ;-)
>
Good quality scotch is to be savoured, ... and the kids gave me some more last Christmas.
After the CABGs I simply didnít feel like having any for a while, so my pre-existing bottle is still largely untouched as well.
I will be eeking it out for special occasions from here on(!), ... like celebrating my return to serious climbing.
;-)

Some responses to this thread that Iíd find interesting would be to hear how widewetandslippery and wallwombat are getting on these days as they too used to like the odd celebration, including on climbing trips+.
Heh, heh, heh.

If I recall correctly Mikl may have shared in celebration with them at least once, after bouldering with them in Ben Hall country a while back.
:)
Widewetandslippery
5-Mar-2018
2:46:34 PM
Hi M9. I managed to break a finger pre Xmas, was getting better then had a clean break of my left middle toe and crushed my right foot. Been a bit off my feet so have put a bit on, was going good. Started riding the bike yesterday and today. Wombat got me on the mid strength beer program. Drink less and its less etoh and calories. We,ve only really had one adventure of late, packrafting the Lachlan.
dalai
5-Mar-2018
3:26:08 PM
On 3-Mar-2018 Duang Daunk wrote:

>That's not bolted.
>It's GRID bolted.
>Bro Mikl, you're not responsible for this crap act, err travesty are you?

I was trying to be polite. But agree it is atrocious!
mikllaw
5-Mar-2018
5:20:48 PM
On 5-Mar-2018 dalai wrote:

>I was trying to be polite. But agree it is atrocious!

Start a thread!

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