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Europe Visa Schengen Advice Please
Tastrad
21-Sep-2016
4:54:10 PM
Has anyone been road tripping in Europe for longer than 90 days and had to apply for long term Schengen visas? Next April I plan to be in Europe for 6 months, but you can only stay less than 90 days on short term Schengen visa..and if you stay longer you have to apply for long stay visa with the embassy of the country where you are staying the longest. For me it would be France, and they are saying I have to apply in person at the consulate in Sydney..but I'm in Tassie. The travel agent tells me I might have to fly out of Europe somewhere and get a second visa. Can anyone who has been through this crazy process please advise me on what to do? Thanks
One Day Hero
21-Sep-2016
5:34:42 PM
The short answer is "no". Schengen zone has 3 months in then 3 months out. You can't just pop over the border, reset your visa, and come back in.

I don't know how hard/expensive it is to get a 6 month visa, but if you're dead set on a long trip just to europe I'd try to sort a visa out. Some climbers just let their visa expire and overstay illegally (with mixed results).

phillipivan
21-Sep-2016
7:28:51 PM
Yes, I have stayed longer that 3 months. I lost my passport and got an emergency replacement from the AU Embassy. Replacement passport didn't list an entrance date, so when leaving they just asked me.

This was about 9 years ago, maybe they do more electronic cross referencing now, I dunno, but they seemed pretty content with my answer and waved me through.

Certainly not a plan without it's downsides however.

Vwills
21-Sep-2016
7:42:18 PM
Just plan 3 months in non schengen countries. We spent a great month in Turkey climbing, and a month in morocco, and time in the Uk to not overstay. There didn't seem to be an easy way around it. I think they often don't check, but we didn't want to take the risk. I think places like Malta, Cyprus, Albania and Norway are outside the zone, depending how adventurous you want to be.
martym
21-Sep-2016
9:49:46 PM
Do you actually get a visa? I thought they just stamp your passport... So one way would be come in one country, leave another, preferably laid back, country - and play dumb if they ask.
Always baffles me how they are picky with tourists happy to pay and not work...
dalai
21-Sep-2016
11:03:30 PM
On 21/09/2016 Vwills wrote:
>I think places like Malta, Cyprus, Albania and Norway are outside the zone, depending how adventurous

Malta has great climbing but is part of the Schengen zone...

Phil_nev
22-Sep-2016
6:19:10 AM
Just at the end of an 8 month road trip. They do check, so far as I have seen, so I wouldn't chance it. Long stay visas are a pain. I tried with the Italian and French embassy, but unless you can show residence they won't touch ya. "Staying with friends" is not acceptable either. I researchd a lot and couldn't find a way around it. We ended up just following the rules and spent time in montenegro, croatia and the UK. Croatia has more than enough climbing to keep you busy, especially in the Istria area, bordering Slovenia and Italy.

Flick us a message if you have any more qs

Cheered,
Phil
Tastrad
22-Sep-2016
8:31:27 AM
Thanks that's great advice. The rules as I now understand them are 90 days max in Schengen zone countries within a 180 day period. For those 90 days, Australians don't need a visa, but beyond 90 days you need a long stay visa which are a pain to get. You can't go out of Schengen and back in and restart the 90 day count..its cumulative within 180 day period..so once you've done 90 days you have to leave for 90 days. So I'm in Europe for 180 days, 90 of which I can climb in France, Italy, Spain, Switzerland and Greece. The rest of the time will be UK, Ireland, maybe Croatia and Turkey.
Tastrad
22-Sep-2016
8:34:38 AM
Thanks Donkey Boy. Actually Ive heard that half the routes at Kalymnos, Ceuse etc all suck donkey dicks, so I might just stay home and do fillers at Hillwood and Blackwood Rocks. And the new ones in your name are going off..Damo The Donkey Dick Licker has had 3 ascents this week..its become a trade route.
DJ Biggs
22-Sep-2016
9:58:37 AM
If you are young enough get a working holiday visa which will give you a year although potentially involve a little more admin. I have used Germany,Sweden and Norway, which were pretty straight forward. You just have to arrange a residential forwarding address in that country if you will be off climbing somewhere else. I hear that French/Italian/Belgian are a pain to get.
Damien Gildea
22-Sep-2016
10:57:01 AM
On 22/09/2016 Phil_nev wrote:
> We ended up just following the
>rules and spent time in montenegro, croatia and the UK. Croatia has more
>than enough climbing to keep you busy,

Yep, my ex-gf did something similar a couple of years back, not climbing, but using time in Montenegro, Croatia and Morocco to do adventurous stuff and stretch out the Schengen. Easy to get to Morocco from Spain, cheap and awesome climbing.

trog
22-Sep-2016
12:42:15 PM
Avoid schegen visa by being a euro?

I'm only half joking... if any of your parents or grandparents were euros it might not be that hard to claim a spare passport depending on the country...
dalai
22-Sep-2016
3:24:08 PM
On 22/09/2016 trog wrote:
>Avoid schegen visa by being a euro?
>
>I'm only half joking... if any of your parents or grandparents were euros
>it might not be that hard to claim a spare passport depending on the country...
>
I got mine through my wife, but not necessarily a quick and easy solution. Took a full year for my application to be processed!

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