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Poll Option Votes Graph
Yes I always separate out my recyclables afterward 15
54% 
No I put it all in the rubbish bin 11
39% 
I leave all my rubbish at the crag 2
7% 

Author
Do you recycle after climbing?
Martym
6-Sep-2016
10:41:30 AM
I've been doing some research at work on recycling attitudes and we came across this article http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-03/green-men-get-men-care-about-environment/7808068. There seems to be a theme at the moment of blokes not finding recycling "manly".
What do you* do? I'm wondering specifically if people go out of their way to separate their recyclables or just chuck it all in the first bin they see?

I'm talking plastic bottles, paper bags from sangers, soft plastic and cling-wrap, apple cores & bananas in the worm farm...

*I'm aware that not all Chockstoners are blokes, but at a glance of regular contributors they do seem to make up a very high proportion of active users. I am definitely curious to see what the climbing population in general does. Sadly I can't separate the survey for demographics - so if you're concerned please add a comment.
hero
6-Sep-2016
2:56:01 PM
Your questions could have been.

Yes.
I am a lazy douchebag.
I am a total douchebag.

Goshen
7-Sep-2016
9:14:23 AM
Not sure I'd take the results as gospel; no doubt they'd be a few (with a small tinge of guilt) who might skip the question. Almost none of my climbing friends would keep a separate bag for recycles when camping, and take them home in the car, rather than the nearest bin.

Best place for a quick survey would be the pines at Araps; it always depresses me to see how much thoughtless waste is generated by climbers/campers... but then; that's a wider issue with our throw-away society isn't it.
kieranl
7-Sep-2016
9:47:01 AM
At one time there were recycling bins at Arapiles but they were removed because of too much non-recyclable rubbish going into them. Very sad.

My guess, or maybe it's only a naive hope, is that most people used the recycling bins properly but a small percentage of misusers was enough to ruin it.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
7-Sep-2016
9:57:07 AM
I voted I put it all in the bin but that is for a few reasons, one being no other voting options available.

Most places I climb there are precious few bins available, but that's ok because I generally pack out what I pack in.
Mt Buffalo is a pleasant exception re the bin thing, and I'm stoked to use the separate recycle bins that they provide both at Catani campsite and also down in the Chalet area.
From what I've seen, they are generally well patronized.

The bins up there also often benefit from the extra rubbish I pick up from the base of climbs, that's been thrown off the clifftops by-

Most other locations that have bins where I climb don't have the recyclables option, and because I mostly travel by motorcycle my available space to take the extra with me that I pick up is limited, so in the bin it goes...



I thought the linked article in original post was rather gratuitous, and certainly took the author a lot of space to make his (salient?) point, that could probably have been simply made, tongue in cheek fashion, by his closing paragraph alone...


We just have to stop labelling products as environmentally-friendly.

Take dolphin-safe tuna: I do not buy it because I am afraid it might make me grow breasts.

But if it were labelled "dolphin-packed tuna"? I could not get enough! Label it "tuna that doesn't contain dolphin but while we were catching them we killed a bunch of dolphins just for fun", and most men would eat little else.

So the course is clear: stop labelling green products as "green".

If a product is palm-oil-free, place a prominent sticker on it with the names of all the orangutans that died to make it.

If an appliance is energy-efficient, slap it with a "this machine kills coral reefs" label.

There are loads of ways we can help the average man resolve the contradictions between his love of the environment and his love of being a strong, pungent male.

Make recycling bins more phallic. Paint nude women on solar panels. Rename wind farms "fight clubs".

Oh sure, to those who do not face the crippling fear of emasculation every day it might seem a bit silly — but when it is the survival of our species at stake, is it not worth it?
Jayford4321
7-Sep-2016
10:43:56 AM
>gratuitous link

Ur 2 political correkt m9. Say it like it iz. It woz a wank by latte sipping wannabeez.

>thrown off the clifftops by douchebagz
There fixt it 4 U.
Martym
12-Sep-2016
11:54:50 AM
On 7/09/2016 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>I voted I put it all in the bin but that is for a few reasons, one being no other voting options available.
Thanks for the feedback - I was merely curious to see what people actually do in practice. I guess the way to respond is "Most of the time I..." or "if possible I recycle"

>The bins up there also often benefit from the extra rubbish I pick up
>from the base of climbs, that's been thrown off the clifftops by-
Good on you! Depending on how gross stuff is - I try to do the same.

>Most other locations that have bins where I climb don't have the recyclables
>option, and because I mostly travel by motorcycle my available space to
>take the extra with me that I pick up is limited, so in the bin it goes...
I think you'll find a lot of councils don't put recycling bins in remote places as the risk of contamination is too high.
Regarding taking stuff out on the bike - I assume you would have already brought the material there on the bike right? And drunk/ate the contents - so it's only going to be lighter isn't it?

>I thought the linked article in original post was rather gratuitous, and
There's plenty more reading - less gratuitous though:
Men's Journal asks "are women attracted to men who recycle?

The LA Times say "Women are more likely to recycle

Business Waste UK say that while blokes take out the bins, 'women are better at recycling', with Essex University saying women for husbands to follow the rules.

Sadly the ABS don't break recycling attitudes into gender - otherwise we'd have more to go on.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
12-Sep-2016
12:13:40 PM
On 12/09/2016 Martym wrote:
>On 7/09/2016 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>>Most other locations that have bins where I climb don't have the recyclables
>>option, and because I mostly travel by motorcycle my available space to
>>take the extra with me that I pick up is limited, so in the bin it goes...

>I think you'll find a lot of councils don't put recycling bins in remote
>places as the risk of contamination is too high.

>Regarding taking stuff out on the bike - I assume you would have already
>brought the material there on the bike right? And drunk/ate the contents
>- so it's only going to be lighter isn't it?

>
True, but you misread my post, the key words being; "the extra with me that I pick up"; ie I pack out what I pack in, but there is a limit to packing out the extra that I collect of others discards.
Sadly I have also started to notice rubbish left in the bush alongside single-track mountain bicycle rides, and the same limitation applies to my treadlying pack-it-outs.
In the latter case I think the culprits are most likely commercial(?) groups starting to use tracks that locals have been using for years without offending in that manner.

Thanks for the additional links.

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