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Protocol for climbing in Werribee
happydude11
15-Jun-2015
11:57:49 AM
This should be a relatively quick question. I've predominantly done indoor climbing with the occasional outdoor climb with a guide but am looking to do more outdoor climbing without a guide. I'm thinking of starting in Werribee Gorge. Does anyone know whether I need anything other than rope and knowledge of tying knots to start climbing outdoor? Do I need to have a permit or do a course or anything like that?

ajfclark
15-Jun-2015
12:15:56 PM
My call would be to join a club. Then you can tag along on a few trips, see if you really, really like it before buying extra gear for outdoor climbing, learn how to setup ropes, etc.
bentobox
15-Jun-2015
1:34:58 PM
Definitely ^^^

Just find someone who has the gear and needs a belay / climbing mate and it should work itself out.
widewetandslippery
15-Jun-2015
2:30:11 PM
Don't nanny state yourself, just go and climb a rock.
kieranl
15-Jun-2015
2:40:30 PM
Werribee...Melbourne's answer to Fontainebleau. What was the question?
Reluctant
15-Jun-2015
3:20:44 PM
Club is good. Mentor is better. While at indoor find someone you trust and can put up with telling you everything you've done all day long is "not how I'd go it".

Eduardo Slabofvic
15-Jun-2015
3:44:34 PM
You might want to have a think about what you are tying your rope to, but other than that, just start doing it, and remember to accept the consequences of your own decision making.
One Day Hero
15-Jun-2015
6:41:48 PM
The first step is to go down to your local park and find a nice solid tree. Look around the base of the tree and see if you can find some dogshit. Stand in the dogshit. Pick some up and rub it on your hands, don't be shy, really grind it in to your skin. Maybe get a bit on your face. Now you won't need to go to Werribee, as you've already experienced what it has to offer as a climbing destination!
Olbert
15-Jun-2015
7:35:25 PM
My girlfriend says you're a dick Damo.

HappyDude11, if I were you I would not take One Day Hero's advice. What I would do is what others have said: join a club or find a friend who can take you out. You shouldn't need anything more than a harness, shoes and chalk. Then when you get a bit of a feel for it, you will answer most of the questions you have now....and think up a bunch more questions to ask.

The main thing to avoid is spending $200 on a rope and then deciding it's not for you!

You could take WideWetandSlippery's advice about just getting out and having a go, though that would be an...interesting experience. You could very well fcuk things up and there could be serious consequences - though lots and lots of old farts learnt this way and the ones still here to tell you about it are still here to tell you about it. If you do do this, then try and beg, borrow or steal gear rather than buying...though don't go home made - that shit should stay in the past.

nmonteith
15-Jun-2015
7:58:46 PM
To actually answer your question... No, you do not need a permit or any other form of qualifications or paperwork to climb at Werribie (or any other outdoor climbing area in Victoria)
patto
15-Jun-2015
8:46:34 PM
Many people join clubs. Others just meet others at gyms and go from there.

In Melbourne you have the Victorian Climbing Club (VCC). You also have uni clubs MUMC, LUMC, ROC, MBOC....

The uni clubs are open to all probably more suitable for people under 35/30.... The VCC may be more suitable for those who have no desire to hang out with young uni students....
One Day Hero
15-Jun-2015
10:40:33 PM
On 15/06/2015 Olbert wrote:
>My girlfriend says you're a dick

Yeah, but I bet you had a chuckle
widewetandslippery
16-Jun-2015
6:09:28 AM
Hey Olbert I live by my words. I took a massive whipper on sunday on my grade 6 project. Might have a broken head.

Ben_E
16-Jun-2015
7:31:31 AM
Some good advise above (along with the, er, somewhat more free-form replies).

No permit/qualifications required.

Joining a club or having a more experienced mentor is a good way of learning without having to make all the mistakes firsthand.

Failing that, get yourself John Long's "How to rock climb" book (or some similar introductory book) and read it. Fundamentals of setting up anchors etc are at least as important as knowing how to tie knots.

Don't listed to the nay-sayers, in a recent survey nearly 7 out of 10 climbers preferred climbing at Werribee Gorge to rubbing dog excrement on their faces. At the very least, in good weather it beats the gym.

Have a blast.
Olbert
16-Jun-2015
11:55:08 AM
On 15/06/2015 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 15/06/2015 Olbert wrote:
>>My girlfriend says you're a dick
>
>Yeah, but I bet you had a chuckle

Touche.

phillipivan
16-Jun-2015
12:18:53 PM
On 16/06/2015 Ben_E wrote:

>Don't listed to the nay-sayers, in a recent survey nearly 7 out of 10
>climbers preferred climbing at Werribee Gorge to rubbing dog excrement
>on their faces.

Let me guess, the other three (and a bit) were all suffering from falling-choss induced concussion?

IdratherbeclimbingM9
16-Jun-2015
1:54:53 PM
On 15/06/2015 happydude11 wrote:
>This should be a relatively quick question. I've predominantly done indoor
>climbing with the occasional outdoor climb with a guide but am looking
>to do more outdoor climbing without a guide. I'm thinking of starting in
>Werribee Gorge. Does anyone know whether I need anything other than rope
>and knowledge of tying knots to start climbing outdoor? Do I need to have
>a permit or do a course or anything like that?

?
Assuming yours isn't a troll post*, what did you actually learn from the "occasional outdoor climb with a guide"?
(*I haven't noticed stugang log in for a while...)

Why not extend that experience by continuing to climb outdoors with your indoor mates? ... ~> shared gear and motivation, greater safety in numbers(?), etc.

Miguel75
16-Jun-2015
2:59:11 PM
On 16/06/2015 phillipivan wrote:
>On 16/06/2015 Ben_E wrote:
>
>>Don't listed to the nay-sayers, in a recent survey nearly 7 out of 10
>>climbers preferred climbing at Werribee Gorge to rubbing dog excrement
>>on their faces.
>
>Let me guess, the other three (and a bit) were all suffering from falling-choss
>induced concussion?

Don't listen to a word people say against Werribee Gorge. I'm pretty sure that Ben E dude is a seppo ;) and I'm pretty sure Phil and myself have enjoyed an afternoon of gallivanting at the Gorge, which did not involve any form of poo! Werribee gorge is a veritable climbing triple threat - great views, fun climbs, loose rock and stacks of people. In the immortal words of Taylor Swift; haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate... And should you perchance find any loose rock Taytay offers this sage advice - shake it off, shake it off... Oooooh ooh ooh ooooohhhhh!

IdratherbeclimbingM9
24-Jun-2015
12:14:32 PM
On 15/06/2015 Olbert wrote:
>(snip) What I would do is what others have said: join a club or find a friend who can take you out. You shouldn't need anything more than a harness, shoes and chalk. Then when you get a bit of a feel for it, you will answer most of the questions you have now....and think up a bunch more questions to ask.
>
>The main thing to avoid is spending $200 on a rope and then deciding it's not for you!
>
>You could take WideWetandSlippery's advice about just getting out and having a go, though that would be an...interesting experience.
>You could very well fcuk things up and there could be serious consequences - though lots and lots of old farts learnt this way and the ones still here to tell you about it are still here to tell you about it.
>If you do do this, then try and beg, borrow or steal gear rather than buying...though don't go home made - that shit should stay in the past.
>

?
Hey Olly, where do you think any of your modern store bought gear originated from?
I reckon most if not all of it, started out as home made prototypes at some point in time...
Heh, heh, heh.

phillipivan
24-Jun-2015
1:51:28 PM
On 16/06/2015 Miguel75 wrote:
>some choss loving dross.

Somewhere in that enjoyable afternoon you insisted on being lowered off after being unnerved by what? Rockfall perhaps? Endless rockfall. It dun matter, some of the most fun I've had climbing this year was with Bigoted Tim on Tranquil Tower and that thing is less stable than a Jenga tower before the 'checkmate' move.

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