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Mt Arapiles - Camping fee booking changes 1st July
martym
23/10/2014
6:10:48 PM
It's probably a record year for camping fees paid.
patto
23/10/2014
6:42:46 PM
On 23/10/2014 martym wrote:
>It's probably a record year for camping fees paid.

How do you figure that?
Olbert
26/11/2014
10:09:40 AM
So what's the go with fees? Is it really $5pp,pn? Are there alternatives?

Times have changed since it was $2pp,pn and a coffee to the ranger if you forgot to pay the night before.

ajfclark
26/11/2014
10:21:06 AM
On 26/11/2014 Olbert wrote:
>So what's the go with fees? Is it really $5pp,pn?

Yes. Booked via CC on the internet.

>Are there alternatives?

Not within walking distance of the climbing. You could stay at the Nati Lake caravan park or at the National Hotel or at a B&B in Natimuk somewhere.

>Times have changed since it was $2pp,pn and a coffee to the ranger if you forgot to pay the night before.

They have.
Olbert
26/11/2014
11:14:53 AM
So can I get my money back if it pisses down and I leave early?

How do I prove I've paid?

Also thanks for the info Ajfclark - I'm just unhappy with the new arrangements.
kieranl
26/11/2014
11:51:33 AM
On 26/11/2014 Olbert wrote:
>How do I prove I've paid?
The ranger can look up your car rego on his iPad -assuming you have a car, which is a pretty safe bet as you're driving from Canberra. As to which tent(s) belong to your car, ranger shrugs his shoulders.

Sabu
26/11/2014
12:00:53 PM
Interesting. In that case if you're not in the system, how does the ranger know you're not just up for the day? If they can't pair you up to a tent they can't prove you camped overnight.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
26/11/2014
12:24:40 PM
On 26/11/2014 Sabu wrote:
>Interesting. In that case if you're not in the system, how does the ranger
>know you're not just up for the day? If they can't pair you up to a tent
>they can't prove you camped overnight.

At Arapiles that could be a problem for them due less formally designated sites, but at Buffalo they 'do the rounds' of the campsites morning and afternoon, and I'd expect they would soon be aware of a tent on an unreserved site to come back and check on. Likewise if the site was reserved, then the rightful booker would no doubt let Ranger know it was occupied by someone else too.
kieranl
26/11/2014
12:27:41 PM
On 26/11/2014 Sabu wrote:
>Interesting. In that case if you're not in the system, how does the ranger
>know you're not just up for the day? If they can't pair you up to a tent
>they can't prove you camped overnight.
Which is how it always has been. If someone lies and says they're not camping it's fairly difficult to prove otherwise.
patto
26/11/2014
3:16:27 PM
On 26/11/2014 kieranl wrote:
>Which is how it always has been. If someone lies and says they're not
>camping it's fairly difficult to prove otherwise.

Which is why I found it so frustrating when my honesty of volunteering to the ranger that I hadn't YET payed my camping fees resulted in a big fine. Being somebody who has always paid my camping fees the only thing that I learnt from that encounter was not to be honest.

shortman
26/11/2014
3:17:42 PM
How much patto?
patto
26/11/2014
3:58:52 PM
$170 or $180.... "Big fine" is of course relative... With the price of campsites at Buffalo, it doesn't seem so big... But it is more than a month of camping at the Pines!

Superstu
26/11/2014
4:25:49 PM
On 26/11/2014 kieranl wrote:
>On 26/11/2014 Sabu wrote:
>>Interesting. In that case if you're not in the system, how does the ranger
>>know you're not just up for the day? If they can't pair you up to a tent
>>they can't prove you camped overnight.
>Which is how it always has been. If someone lies and says they're not
>camping it's fairly difficult to prove otherwise.

So if I come down to Victoria in my bongo van I should be able to avoid all camping fees? I'd have to actually be busted sleeping in my van.

patto
26/11/2014
5:58:57 PM
Avoiding camping fees in almost all Victorian camping site is fairly trivial and has pretty much always been so. All the more easier if you are sleeping in a van or car.

For the system to work it relies on honesty. My desire to be honest and respectful of the NP rules was significantly decreased by their approach to things.

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