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Mt Arapiles - Camping fee booking changes 1st July
patto
20/08/2014
6:06:27 PM
On 19/08/2014 Wendy wrote:
>Araps is now the most sensible camp fee arrangement in PV. Think about
>a long term stay in the Grampians if you want to worry about your budget
>for camp fees.
So very true. It isn't just the cost. So many campsites have need booking online yet have no possible internet access. (Araps is relatively easy given the population and the mobile coverage.) And lets not mention many other campsites that are now partitioned into "sites" and ones which are no longer free.

I must admit that having to book online for araps is a pain in the arse The horrible website makes things worse. But overall despite my and other's whinging araps fees are not too bad.
skegly
29/08/2014
8:15:19 AM
Hey chocky folk.
question.
ill won't have a car so do I pay 5 bucks for a tent site and say no car?
Cheers
mic

ajfclark
29/08/2014
8:44:19 AM
I think that's what their instructions say somewhere...
natty
2/09/2014
9:31:20 PM
So... assuming that I want to go to Arapiles for a weekend or a trip, whenever, winter, summer.. I have to: #1. Be able to afford the internet... #2. Have a mobile phone which has internet.... #3. Book a time at the Library internet just to Book my stay at Arapiles... #4. And all for a government.... (**cough** ahem**) I mean... all for a website that is just completely incompetent... For what??? To be charged more fees?


And assuming that I have actually been able to PREbook my stay at arapiles... with my "apparent" credit card... How will I actually be able to extend my stay if there is no reception for my AMAZING mobile phone that I apparently need to have.., to book VIA the internet which I apparently need to have.. on my mobile which has no reception at arapiles.., which means I need to manage to find my way into town.., just to do this... in order to avoid a FINE. ?
kieranl
2/09/2014
9:45:48 PM
On 2/09/2014 natty wrote:
>So... assuming that I want to go to Arapiles for a weekend or a trip, whenever,
>winter, summer.. I have to: #1. Be able to afford the internet... #2. Have
>a mobile phone which has internet.... #3. Book a time at the Library internet
>just to Book my stay at Arapiles... #4. And all for a government.... (**cough**
>ahem**) I mean... all for a website that is just completely incompetent...
>For what??? To be charged more fees?
Yep it's much the same effort as required to log a whinge on Chocky.
Yes it sucks to have to book a site at Araps. But, nothing special about Araps except for the low rate, you'll have to do the same to book for any state or national park in Vic.
Yes it sucks that the website sucks.
That about sums it up. Did that help?
natty
2/09/2014
10:33:40 PM
Lucky for me and others (like yourself), I have actually been able to voice my complaints at this time in my life. But what about those others who simply have no means.

Keiranl: Yes it sucks to have to book a site at Araps. But, nothing special about Araps except for the low rate, you'll have to do the same to book for any state or national park in Vic.
Yes it sucks that the website sucks.
That about sums it up. Did that help?>

I do not accept this.

I say it is unreasonable. To expect people to be able to just simply "afford" this.. when there (have been and will be) budget cuts to so many areas, affecting all people, currently and in the future. It is creating a divide between the rich and the poor. (To put it bluntly.. but it is the truth)

Social inequality, and poor economic factors have been proven to affect health globally and throughout a person's life. This is not simply a "whinge" KeiranL, but a matter for town Planners to acknowledge.


Doug
3/09/2014
1:01:53 AM
On 29/08/2014 skegly wrote:
>Hey chocky folk.
>question.
>ill won't have a car so do I pay 5 bucks for a tent site and say no car?
>Cheers
>mic

hmmm, interesting. Off the top of my head, I think you actually book for a tent site, not a parking space. Of course if the five bucks per night for a space on the ground and all the toilet paper you need is too much, I believe there is a free campsite about 20 kms from Arapiles towards Goroke that you could doss down in and hitch to the Piles from there ...

ajfclark
3/09/2014
7:12:29 AM
The website asks for a car rego, much like the paper form did.

Might be tricky for those getting rentals.
kieranl
3/09/2014
8:41:46 AM
On 2/09/2014 natty wrote:
>Lucky for me and others (like yourself), I have actually been able to voice
>my complaints at this time in my life. But what about those others who
>simply have no means.
>I say it is unreasonable. To expect people to be able to just simply "afford"
>this.. when there (have been and will be) budget cuts to so many areas,
>affecting all people, currently and in the future. It is creating a divide
>between the rich and the poor. (To put it bluntly.. but it is the truth)
>
>Social inequality, and poor economic factors have been proven to affect
>health globally and throughout a person's life. This is not simply a "whinge"
>KeiranL, but a matter for town Planners to acknowledge.
>
>
Generally laudable polemic but you lost me a bit with the town planners. Not sure what that has to do with climbing or camping.
gfdonc
3/09/2014
12:22:01 PM
Hey everyone, FYI, when researching a few things recently I noticed Plantation Campground in the Grampians is somehow excluded from the fee/booking requirement.
A little odd, I assume because it's just outside the NP but still maintained by Parks.
Not that you shouldn't stay in a nice house in Halls Gap of course ..
Stingray4100
3/09/2014
12:33:09 PM
You could always ring them on the phone.... from the phone box...but you'll probably still need plastic money. The days of cash are pretty much gone.

Eduardo Slabofvic
4/09/2014
11:48:25 AM
On 3/09/2014 kieranl wrote:
>On 2/09/2014 natty wrote:
>>Lucky for me and others (like yourself), I have actually been able to
>voice
>>my complaints at this time in my life. But what about those others who
>>simply have no means.
>>I say it is unreasonable. To expect people to be able to just simply
>"afford"
>>this.. when there (have been and will be) budget cuts to so many areas,
>>affecting all people, currently and in the future. It is creating a divide
>>between the rich and the poor. (To put it bluntly.. but it is the truth)
>>
>>Social inequality, and poor economic factors have been proven to affect
>>health globally and throughout a person's life. This is not simply a
>"whinge"
>>KeiranL, but a matter for town Planners to acknowledge.
>>
>>
>Generally laudable polemic but you lost me a bit with the town planners.
>Not sure what that has to do with climbing or camping.

Town planners are evil bastards with no morals and definitely no soul. They are best avoided. It's better to leave decision making up to those members of the community who have no training, no experience, and no clue what they are doing.
lacto
4/09/2014
12:21:05 PM
>Town planners are evil bastards with no morals and definitely no soul.
> They are best avoided. It's better to leave decision making up to those
>members of the community who have no training, no experience, and no clue
>what they are doing.

This sounds like the current Minister for Planning - but definitely knows what he is doing

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