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Relationship between climbers and reptiles
JBest
13/04/2014
12:04:56 PM
Hello!

I have an assignment coming up for University and I was wondering whether anyone could help me with the topic.

Reptiles of Mt Arapiles Toonan State Park. Whose sharing your cracks? How can we share these cracks together?

Happy climbing :)

Thanks

Miguel75
13/04/2014
2:23:58 PM
I've never met a reptile I liked at Araps though when I was in Mexico I dated an Iguana for a while... What do you want to know?

Duang Daunk
13/04/2014
2:28:34 PM
I overheard someone in Nati saying that pecheur (or was it Ed Slab?), said that simey has a snake out that way that he likes to flaunt.
JBest
13/04/2014
2:29:49 PM
:) It is a pretty lengthy assignment. I just wanted to know what main reptiles are at Arapiles and some ways that we as climbers can share the cracks with them without causing any disturbance!

Miguel75
13/04/2014
2:53:39 PM
On 13/04/2014 JBest wrote:
...SNIP...
>I just wanted to know what main reptiles
>are at Arapiles and some ways that we as climbers can share the cracks
>with them without causing any disturbance!

I'm not sure sharing crack will lead to positive outcomes for either reptiles or people, even if Ron Burgundy calls it 'vials of smiles' ;)

P.S. I have no idea what reptiles inhabit Araps and the surrounds.

Duang Daunk
13/04/2014
2:58:29 PM
On 13/04/2014 Miguel75 wrote:
>P.S. I have no idea what reptiles inhabit Araps and the surrounds.

Didn't you recently post something about not knowing whether to take a hammer or a shotgun to sort them out at easter?

Miguel75
13/04/2014
6:41:44 PM
On 13/04/2014 Duang Daunk wrote:
>On 13/04/2014 Miguel75 wrote:
>>P.S. I have no idea what reptiles inhabit Araps and the surrounds.
>
>Didn't you recently post something about not knowing whether to take a
>hammer or a shotgun to sort them out at easter?

They were for defense against the threat of the rampaging onesie hordes. Reptiles are good, onesie's not so much; unless you're 12 or under!

E. Wells
13/04/2014
7:14:23 PM
I think foxes have an impact on reptiles in araps significantly more than climbers salami scraps etc. It would be a much cooler assignment at frog buttress, plenty of sharing going on there!!!

shortman
14/04/2014
11:05:59 AM
On 13/04/2014 JBest wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I have an assignment coming up for University and I was wondering whether
>anyone could help me with the topic.
>
>Reptiles of Mt Arapiles Toonan State Park. Whose sharing your cracks?
>How can we share these cracks together?
>
>Happy climbing :)
>
>Thanks

This is really confusing...I have tried really hard to understand what it is you are asking.

I see lizards all the time when I climb at araps. They just move away when I climb. I just keep climbing. Is this what you are looking for?

shortman
14/04/2014
11:07:09 AM
On 13/04/2014 JBest wrote:
>:) It is a pretty lengthy assignment. I just wanted to know what main reptiles
>are at Arapiles and some ways that we as climbers can share the cracks
>with them without causing any disturbance!

We are big unwieldy humans with shadows and heaviness. Not sure if it is possible not to disturb.

Climboholic
14/04/2014
11:10:34 AM
There are lots of Skinks on the walls and plenty of Stumpies on the ground. A friend of mine once mistook two amorous stumpies under her tent for a snake and got a bit concerned.

Or are you talking about snakes in the same cracks that climbers want to put their hands or gear? There are a number of cracks around the country know to be a snake's seasonal home (I put my hand in a crack 10cm away from a coiled up Tiger snake once). I haven't encountered any at Arapiles but there's probably a few cracks known for it.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
14/04/2014
11:16:37 AM
On 14/04/2014 shortman wrote:
>We are big unwieldy humans with shadows and heaviness. Not sure if it
>is possible not to disturb.

While I agree with this, I don't think many of the interactions are negative for either party, particularly when it comes to lizards.
Bees (yes, I know they are not reptiles), snakes, and other critters may be another matter...

JBest, why limit your study to Araps?
There are a number of threads on Chockstone with a lot of information within them that you could potentially use, if you included all the climbing areas that they cover...


ambyeok
14/04/2014
1:50:38 PM
Im pretty sure the skinks on the bluffs, tiger wall, etc. are impacted from so many people feeding them. I'm guilty e.g. fed one straight from my mouth. Then there is the old pick up a stumpy challenge, I'm guilty there too, and heard about photos of stumpy in sandwich, stumpy down pants, etc. Never seen a snake at araps but the long timers might have. I too stuck my hand in a crack next to a tiger snake at frog buttress. Not sure but we might have impact to the reptiles food sources? Just a thought.

ajfclark
14/04/2014
2:17:46 PM
I've seen a brown snake on the sunny side of Bushrangers Bluff. Next to the tree near Rubbery Under Arms.

salty crag
14/04/2014
2:23:48 PM
I agree with Shortmans comments. If a lengthy assignment would it be safe to assume you will be doing some field work for identification and numbers... I would be keen to see what results you come up with. I'm not sure but the main scaly critters I see at Araps are the Shingleback lizard (stumpy) and the White's skink. I move way to slow to bother either. With the work put into revegetation, walk tracks and the decrease in firewood scrounging the food source has probably increased in recent years. Do a base study then come back in 4 years and repeat it, you will then be able to lay claim to being the foremost authority on reptiles in the Tooan state park. If you come across ambyeok whilst there smack his fingers, feeding the wildlife tch tch.

shortman
14/04/2014
2:48:14 PM
On 14/04/2014 ajfclark wrote:
>I've seen a brown snake on the sunny side of Bushrangers Bluff. Next to
>the tree near Rubbery Under Arms.

ha ha...rubbery under arms...a one move wonder if a grade 15 climb can be a one move wonder??

I led that inadvertently in front of the FA...much to his amazement with my long reach...

His words - 'this is the only thing I ever climbed first and was always a shit route' - at least in my mind this was what he said, :)

I liked it coz it was easy, :)

Duang Daunk
14/04/2014
3:12:32 PM
Rubbery Under Arms.
Long reach eh?
You obviously get the full value of the climb then.

I didn't find any snakes on Serpent, nor did I find any skinks on Skink, or for that matter salamanders on Salamander.
I did however see Eduardo on Salami once, but I might have been mistaken, because I thought it was spam at the time.

ajfclark
14/04/2014
3:21:54 PM
I found a nest of Kestrels on Serpent (or close enough was probably Revelations or Fall of Man).

shortman
14/04/2014
3:31:12 PM
On 14/04/2014 Duang Daunk wrote:
>Rubbery Under Arms.
>Long reach eh?
>You obviously get the full value of the climb then.

Actually, ajfclark is currently educating me about names at bushy's and rubbery under arms is a play on words...Robbery Under Arms...

nuthin to do with arm arms, :)

Duang Daunk
14/04/2014
3:38:18 PM
On 14/04/2014 shortman wrote:
>On 14/04/2014 Duang Daunk wrote:
>>Rubbery Under Arms.
>>Long reach eh?
>>You obviously get the full value of the climb then.
>>
>
>Actually, ajfclark is currently educating me about names at bushy's and
>rubbery under arms is a play on words...Robbery Under Arms...
>
>nuthin to do with arm arms, :)
>

I realise that shorty, but it doesn't stop my original ascertion.
Your ape-factor is obviously going to be good if you are + 1.8 m tall, and I have seen that in person, but no matter, how are you at juggling stumpies?
No doubt Jbest would be impressed in his research if he saw that exhibition at the Arapiles!

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